What kind of welding class should I be taking?
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i work at Wanapum Dam in Washington State and our new brackets we just made to support the weight of a 500+ ton unit and the brakes to stop them while spinning 85.7 rpm (over 100 mph at the stator) were all welded with a mig welder. and yes thay all passed inspection. so mig my not always be the best i agree, but they are strong when done right too.
i agree, smaw is stronger but it does matter who is welding.. my welding teacher did a open groove 3/8" weld with a 110 mig.. and it passed the bend test in the press.
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I am by no means trashing the mig welding process ... I just feel the learning curve is to flat for me is all ... Mig does not serve to challenge MOST peeple..... I just thought if your paying for someone to teach you why not learn the tougher process.... Travis_h that sounds like a big ass unit .... and for static loads mig is an outstanding process and much faster than arc... but for high pressure dynamic loads on a pressure vessel it's not recomended. Mig is definatly the best for fabbing on our trucks ... it's quick and easy to make tacks .... and weld in general ... I just feel it's to easy ... and a waste of money to pay someone to teach you it ...but then again I am jaded in this area .....
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shakes_24.
im not saying your trash talking it just sorta came across that way. i agree that mig my not be very challenging or worth spending much money on to have someone teach you in a class, but don't most classes not even teach it do they? or at least not first. if you can learn arc then mig is easy. just point and pull the trigger. i just felt like it was said that its not strong. and it can be. all our pipes are welded stick or tig so i also agree they can be done stronger, but mig it still perfectly acceptable when in a home shop or garage. plus its easy ang cheep.
im not saying your trash talking it just sorta came across that way. i agree that mig my not be very challenging or worth spending much money on to have someone teach you in a class, but don't most classes not even teach it do they? or at least not first. if you can learn arc then mig is easy. just point and pull the trigger. i just felt like it was said that its not strong. and it can be. all our pipes are welded stick or tig so i also agree they can be done stronger, but mig it still perfectly acceptable when in a home shop or garage. plus its easy ang cheep.
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Now back to welding thats fun. There is something about making something, that lasts and has function.You don't know how tickled I am that I MADE a gas can holder. all smiles.
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Sounds like the standard tests ... hows your smaw vertical going ??? keeping a nice tight weave ??? anyone I have welded with always says don't even worry about the center when welding vertical just watch the outside edge of the puddle as soon as you see it has fully fused the wall flick the rod to the other side ..... happy burning
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Well I have been reading this thread since it first came out...thanks phil....and I think that I'm gonna take a stick welding course and then buy a mig and go nuts.
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So have I (of course!)
really looking forward to seeing your craziness - please report back on this thread. I'll likely take a course in January or February for MIG and go from there....
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I still think that if you don`t learn to stick weld.
You just don`t ever understand the concepts of how things happen in the weld puddle Nor do you learn how to run 6010 or ever know what it is like to run Jet wire
Plus you can weld most any metals by changing electrodes or at most polarity Even Aluminum if need be with the 4043 electrodes
Yes by all means go to school if at all possible
You just don`t ever understand the concepts of how things happen in the weld puddle Nor do you learn how to run 6010 or ever know what it is like to run Jet wire
Plus you can weld most any metals by changing electrodes or at most polarity Even Aluminum if need be with the 4043 electrodes
Yes by all means go to school if at all possible
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I still think that if you don`t learn to stick weld.
You just don`t ever understand the concepts of how things happen in the weld puddle Nor do you learn how to run 6010 or ever know what it is like to run Jet wire
Plus you can weld most any metals by changing electrodes or at most polarity Even Aluminum if need be with the 4043 electrodes
Yes by all means go to school if at all possible
You just don`t ever understand the concepts of how things happen in the weld puddle Nor do you learn how to run 6010 or ever know what it is like to run Jet wire
Plus you can weld most any metals by changing electrodes or at most polarity Even Aluminum if need be with the 4043 electrodes
Yes by all means go to school if at all possible
I carry a handful of 6010 rods in my truck (w/ on board welder) when wheeling, since you can get that stuff to work with the dirtiest metal imaginable.
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Just ended the week of welding / A.S degree Welding The lab due is a lap joint, Fillet weld one side / fillet and then multiple passes the other side. 4 x 8 inch plates. 6011 big improvement over the 6010. My project this semester will def. be a front bumper of some sorts. Oh joy rapture.