Can't weld to Toyota frames...?
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If you have to show them a CAD file, they don't need to be welding on your rig.
Just tell them that the sliders weld to the frame and that the main tube/rail goes under the pinch weld about 3/4" to 1" gap from it. I'd use 1/4" scab plates to reinforce the frame. Pick the sliders up and show them where they go if you have to. My friend Scott had never heard of such a thing, but I showed him what there were and he dang sure figured out how to weld them on w/ my help. Shouldn't be a problem for a fabricator/welder w/ half a brain.
Just tell them that the sliders weld to the frame and that the main tube/rail goes under the pinch weld about 3/4" to 1" gap from it. I'd use 1/4" scab plates to reinforce the frame. Pick the sliders up and show them where they go if you have to. My friend Scott had never heard of such a thing, but I showed him what there were and he dang sure figured out how to weld them on w/ my help. Shouldn't be a problem for a fabricator/welder w/ half a brain.
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For fabricators up here, I'd have to explain what a slider is and go from there. It's not like down there.
I'd say that I want a set of rock sliders for my truck and I'd get a bunch of blank faces looking back at me.
Would make life easy for me and them if they could go by a CAD file for dimensions and measurements. That way I could drop off the printout, say 'Make this' and not have to explain everything.
I'd say that I want a set of rock sliders for my truck and I'd get a bunch of blank faces looking back at me.
Would make life easy for me and them if they could go by a CAD file for dimensions and measurements. That way I could drop off the printout, say 'Make this' and not have to explain everything.
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So you need some sliders built and then welded on? Is that the jist of it?
Find a good fabricator/welder. Take him some pictures of some 2nd gen trucks and some pictures of sliders, with them on/off, whatever. Then get an overall dimension of how long you'd like the sliders, how far out you want them to come, junk like that and then sit down w/ the guy and explain it to him.
Like I said, my buddy Scott who made my 3rd gen sliders had no clue what they were until I showed him some pics and some sketches.
Here's you a CAD file, but don't take the measurements as "gospel" by any means, just something I showed him since AutoCAD is readily available for me and easier than sketching when sitting at my computer at work...looks like work!
Your welcome!
Find a good fabricator/welder. Take him some pictures of some 2nd gen trucks and some pictures of sliders, with them on/off, whatever. Then get an overall dimension of how long you'd like the sliders, how far out you want them to come, junk like that and then sit down w/ the guy and explain it to him.
Like I said, my buddy Scott who made my 3rd gen sliders had no clue what they were until I showed him some pics and some sketches.
Here's you a CAD file, but don't take the measurements as "gospel" by any means, just something I showed him since AutoCAD is readily available for me and easier than sketching when sitting at my computer at work...looks like work!
Your welcome!
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Originally Posted by Scofco
Is there a CAD file of 2nd gen sliders I could take to a shop?
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...erZ.shtml#Kits
Most economical is to get the mini-kit that has all the small parts pre-cut. You supply the straight, long tubes locally (saves big time on shipping) and then weld them up per the instructions.
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Thanks Wabbit!
Also thanks Roger, I hadn't realized there was a mini-kit.
My main beef with ordering pre-built ones is shipping costs. It wouldn't be worth it after all is said and done. The mini-kit would definately make things easier.
Also thanks Roger, I hadn't realized there was a mini-kit.
My main beef with ordering pre-built ones is shipping costs. It wouldn't be worth it after all is said and done. The mini-kit would definately make things easier.
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Exocaging my toyota and basing my cage from my sliders.
I`m planning on bushing the frame and cradling sliders to displace impact and weight through the frame.
It`s my first one ,so should be a major learning curve.
I`m planning on bushing the frame and cradling sliders to displace impact and weight through the frame.
It`s my first one ,so should be a major learning curve.
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1 logical reason why you "shouldn't" weld anything to your frame:
It burns all the powder coating off of the inner wall of the frame rail in the general vacinity of the weld(s). Which is nearly impossible to fix, and WILL cause it to rust from the inside out if you don't atleast try. There's no way you can powder coat it again. And trying to spray/coat the inside of a boxed frame rail with primer/paint is extremely difficult at best. Toyota powder coated the entire frame...AFTER they welded it together.
It burns all the powder coating off of the inner wall of the frame rail in the general vacinity of the weld(s). Which is nearly impossible to fix, and WILL cause it to rust from the inside out if you don't atleast try. There's no way you can powder coat it again. And trying to spray/coat the inside of a boxed frame rail with primer/paint is extremely difficult at best. Toyota powder coated the entire frame...AFTER they welded it together.
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Wow there are a lot of tacoma's out there that are welded on all over the frames and I have never herd of them having any problems at all. I maybe would not weld stuff onto a leased vehicle but then again most leaser's aren't wheeling there machines either.
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