2wd running 28" all terrain tires (pics plz)
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2wd running 28" all terrain tires (pics plz)
I just wanted to know what a stock 2wd (or with a lift...) would look like running 28" all terrain tires. i would get 2" of lift out of it (not that big of a deal) but would it make the truck more macho? 4wd seem to have be higher stock than 2wd
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im assuming that its a sups. lift
lifting the back seems pretty straightforward, from adding leafs, to getting new ones, to adding coils.
What is easiest in the front? BJ spacers? or are those for 4wd?
lifting the back seems pretty straightforward, from adding leafs, to getting new ones, to adding coils.
What is easiest in the front? BJ spacers? or are those for 4wd?
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ill check around...
i just don't have a lot of money to spend. I got none cuz I owe a thou to my parents and the rest will be saved for insurance and college
i just don't have a lot of money to spend. I got none cuz I owe a thou to my parents and the rest will be saved for insurance and college
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The rear was lifted with add-a-leafs and 3" over stock shackles. The front... well yeah it's a fabtech lift kit- new upper control arms and torsion bars.
BJ spacers are an option for the front but to actually get lift out of them you would need to crank the t-bars up due to the difference between the 2wd and 4wd suspension: 4wd trucks have the torsion bar acting on the upper control arm so installing spacers pushes the knuckle down causing lift; 2wd trucks have the torsion bar acting on the lower control arm so installing the spacer only causes the uppper control arm to sit higher- the lower arm doesn't move so no lift without adjusting the torsion bars.
other options for the front are a full suspension like the fabtech kit (if you can find one), total chaos or downey long travel suspension or obsessed motorsports' lift spindles.
as I mentioned, aal's and shackles are one way for more lift in the rear. for more than the approximate 3" you get that way, new springs would be required or do a 'spring over axle' conversion for about 4" (stock 2wd, the leaf spring is under the axle).
BJ spacers are an option for the front but to actually get lift out of them you would need to crank the t-bars up due to the difference between the 2wd and 4wd suspension: 4wd trucks have the torsion bar acting on the upper control arm so installing spacers pushes the knuckle down causing lift; 2wd trucks have the torsion bar acting on the lower control arm so installing the spacer only causes the uppper control arm to sit higher- the lower arm doesn't move so no lift without adjusting the torsion bars.
other options for the front are a full suspension like the fabtech kit (if you can find one), total chaos or downey long travel suspension or obsessed motorsports' lift spindles.
as I mentioned, aal's and shackles are one way for more lift in the rear. for more than the approximate 3" you get that way, new springs would be required or do a 'spring over axle' conversion for about 4" (stock 2wd, the leaf spring is under the axle).
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yup. 4Crawler has them as does SDORI.
4Crawler: http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...er_HowTo.shtml
SDORI: http://www.sdori.com/SDORI_Products.html
4Crawler: http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...er_HowTo.shtml
SDORI: http://www.sdori.com/SDORI_Products.html
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nvm... thanks abe
i wonder if you could fab ur own BJ spacers out of steel my drilling the holes urself...
i do believe there was a thread a while back on that.
Could you make your own longer shackles for the rear as well?
i wonder if you could fab ur own BJ spacers out of steel my drilling the holes urself...
i do believe there was a thread a while back on that.
Could you make your own longer shackles for the rear as well?
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I don't know if it's worth the effort to try to fab your own. 4Crawler and SDORI's spacers are 100 a pair.
As for longer shackles, yeah you could make your own. you just have to be careful when you get too long because they'll let the truck shift side to side due to the flex in the metal and in the bushings. Between the shackles and aal's it's about 100-125 bucks, last I checked.
As for longer shackles, yeah you could make your own. you just have to be careful when you get too long because they'll let the truck shift side to side due to the flex in the metal and in the bushings. Between the shackles and aal's it's about 100-125 bucks, last I checked.
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ya
the 100 / pair for the BJ spacers sound really appealing, but i just happen to have a 1.5" aluminum block sitting in my garage that is the right size to make 2 of em
i would probably add coils in the back to lift the rear (zuk mod i think) because it sounds pretty easy
the 100 / pair for the BJ spacers sound really appealing, but i just happen to have a 1.5" aluminum block sitting in my garage that is the right size to make 2 of em
i would probably add coils in the back to lift the rear (zuk mod i think) because it sounds pretty easy
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http://www.obsessedmotorsports.com/T...d_spindle.html
3" spindles, $475 (site says $499)
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/index.shtml
sells everything else.
If you have a 5 speed why not just go with a body lift ? I wish I could go that route but I have an automatic.
3" spindles, $475 (site says $499)
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/index.shtml
sells everything else.
If you have a 5 speed why not just go with a body lift ? I wish I could go that route but I have an automatic.
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Since the column shift auto has its linkage pass through the firewall below where the steering shaft passes through the firewall, and has a near vertical link to the cantilever (bellcrank, cam, whatever you want to call it) that translates the vertical motion of the shift lever into the horizontal motion the transmission needs, lifing the body off of the frame would require extending the vertical linkage where it passes through the firewall correspondingly. A 10 or 20 dollar part no one seems to want to make.
Lifting the body 1" would amount to you moving the shift lever from Park to Neutral, or Reverse at best.
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BJ spacers are an option for the front but to actually get lift out of them you would need to crank the t-bars up due to the difference between the 2wd and 4wd suspension: 4wd trucks have the torsion bar acting on the upper control arm so installing spacers pushes the knuckle down causing lift; 2wd trucks have the torsion bar acting on the lower control arm so installing the spacer only causes the uppper control arm to sit higher- the lower arm doesn't move so no lift without adjusting the torsion bars.
So why buy BJ spacers ? Why not just use the T-bars to level a 2WD ?
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I was asking abecedarian, I didn't understand why they were so highly regarded if they didn't work.
That was before I installed mine. I got 3/4 of an inch in the front, and here's the really weird part, 1/2 an inch in the rear.
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here's another lifted 2WD. Seriously, make yourself a B/L ! all you need is a rod of Delrin. Too bad I don't work for Eptam Plastics ( http://www.eptam.com ) anymore
What you all really need to do is bask in the glory of this 2wd monster!
It could crush any of your 4x4s out on the trail...... Extensive trail testing still needs to be done though.
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3in BL, 1.5 BJ Spacers, 24mm downey torsion bars, Downey shackles, 235-75-15's - BFgoodrich front and Treadwright M/T rear
It could crush any of your 4x4s out on the trail...... Extensive trail testing still needs to be done though.
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3in BL, 1.5 BJ Spacers, 24mm downey torsion bars, Downey shackles, 235-75-15's - BFgoodrich front and Treadwright M/T rear
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