Who's got the best deal going on plug wires?
#1
Who's got the best deal going on plug wires?
My plug wires are goners or nearly being they are on their death bed. My engine has a slight miss and my wires have burnt themselves on the exh. and been repaired. Well I need new wires. I checked ebay but cant find any for the 3.0 at all and dont want cheapo crap. Anyone seen any wires lately for inexpensive?
Ben
Ben
#4
Umm, Ben... if you don't want "cheapo crap" then you're gonna have to pay for 'em.
I spent $52 including shipping on 9mm wires from Wires4Cars. They're really nice:
(click for a larger pic)
I spent $52 including shipping on 9mm wires from Wires4Cars. They're really nice:
(click for a larger pic)
#5
Originally Posted by midiwall
Umm, Ben... if you don't want "cheapo crap" then you're gonna have to pay for 'em.
I spent $52 including shipping on 9mm wires from Wires4Cars. They're really nice:
(click for a larger pic)
I spent $52 including shipping on 9mm wires from Wires4Cars. They're really nice:
(click for a larger pic)
Last edited by Yoter; 01-30-2005 at 10:24 AM.
#7
Originally Posted by midiwall
Umm, Ben... if you don't want "cheapo crap" then you're gonna have to pay for 'em.
I spent $52 including shipping on 9mm wires from Wires4Cars. They're really nice:
(click for a larger pic)
I spent $52 including shipping on 9mm wires from Wires4Cars. They're really nice:
(click for a larger pic)
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#8
Originally Posted by midiwall
The link doesn't go to a specific set ("Results 1 - 20 of 1492") but I'd bet that you'd be a lot happier than you are now, and $25 richer.
#9
Originally Posted by Yoter
Just found this set of universal wires from Accel . Great price. I have always like Accel. thoughts?
I've installed several accel sets on v-8's, both custom and universal. unless theres special routing issues, i always buy custom fit sets.
#10
Originally Posted by 3car
Accell universal sets require you to crimp on your own ends, but i'm sure you know that. It can make for a nice fit, but its a pain in the booty for the few dollars you save. Also, I doubt a universal set will have the correct coil wire, because the 3.0's coil wire has some funky ends on it.
I've installed several accel sets on v-8's, both custom and universal. unless theres special routing issues, i always buy custom fit sets.
I've installed several accel sets on v-8's, both custom and universal. unless theres special routing issues, i always buy custom fit sets.
#11
http://www2.maximumautoparts.com/par...t&category=All
theres a bosch set on there for $27.36 with free shipping.
theres a bosch set on there for $27.36 with free shipping.
#12
I'd stick to the factory set. Toyota spent a whole lot of time and $$ developing these. Plus the factory wires come pre loomed with mounting tabs and all. For about the same price you'd spend on a dececnt set of aftermarked. Unless you are running a real high energy system you don't get that much apreciable gain over stock wires. and you don't get much if any radio interference. my .02c
#16
Originally Posted by Yoter
If I got the accel set I would save nearly $25 over buying an NGK or Autolite set.
Can anyone tell me how much of a difference the wire size makes?
#17
A post I made on another thread about this subject.
The moral of the story is be sure to measure the resistance on the plug wire before you buy it. The more resistance it has the less spark energy actually makes it to your plug. More resistance = less current for a given amount of voltage. The stock toyota coils dont run enough voltage to even warrant an 8mm wire. I use the 7's with my jacobs ignition and thay are just fine. The only argument I can see for an 8mm or larger wire is that you can abuse it a bit more when handling it and it will take it but for our uses there is no electrical advantage.
Another wich wire is best argument
Edit... I was never able to find an NGK wire to test so if you get some find out the resistance and figure the ohms per foot on them.
Carbon core OE wires are a standard service item. Thay are made to be replaced at certain intervals. Just because you where still able to fire a plug with a 25k ohm plug wire doesnt mean that thay where still good. Most are junk to be honest and only do 1 thing well and thats supress radio interference so you can listen to AM radio.
I recently read "Optimizing your Ignition" and this is a very informative no nonsense book on electronic ignitions. When I went to buy wires I took my Ohm meter with me. As far as cheap over the counter wires go I tested about 20 different brands including some of the build them yourself kits from accell. I found the bosch spiral core wires (mag core thay call them) to be about the best cheap wire available in my area. Thay test out at about 300 ohms per foot compared to my old stock wires that where 6000 ohms per foot. If you have a schucks/kragen parts store locally look for thier borg/warner nascar brand wires. These are made by bosch and test exactly the same but only cost about $25. The advantage to using spiral core wires is that you get most of the EMI supression of the carbon crap wires and much less resistance ... ohh and did I mention those $25 wires have a lifetime warranty? The spriral core wires should not wear out like carbon wires but thay still require care like any wire when handling them. Get some spark plug boot silicone grease while your at it so you dont rip the next set.
The best wires I have been able to track down are MSD @ 40 ohms per foot but they are darn expensive. If you are thinking about buying plugs try not to spend more than a few dollars per plug. All those fancy expensive plugs are just a band-aid for a weak ignition system.
I recently read "Optimizing your Ignition" and this is a very informative no nonsense book on electronic ignitions. When I went to buy wires I took my Ohm meter with me. As far as cheap over the counter wires go I tested about 20 different brands including some of the build them yourself kits from accell. I found the bosch spiral core wires (mag core thay call them) to be about the best cheap wire available in my area. Thay test out at about 300 ohms per foot compared to my old stock wires that where 6000 ohms per foot. If you have a schucks/kragen parts store locally look for thier borg/warner nascar brand wires. These are made by bosch and test exactly the same but only cost about $25. The advantage to using spiral core wires is that you get most of the EMI supression of the carbon crap wires and much less resistance ... ohh and did I mention those $25 wires have a lifetime warranty? The spriral core wires should not wear out like carbon wires but thay still require care like any wire when handling them. Get some spark plug boot silicone grease while your at it so you dont rip the next set.
The best wires I have been able to track down are MSD @ 40 ohms per foot but they are darn expensive. If you are thinking about buying plugs try not to spend more than a few dollars per plug. All those fancy expensive plugs are just a band-aid for a weak ignition system.
The moral of the story is be sure to measure the resistance on the plug wire before you buy it. The more resistance it has the less spark energy actually makes it to your plug. More resistance = less current for a given amount of voltage. The stock toyota coils dont run enough voltage to even warrant an 8mm wire. I use the 7's with my jacobs ignition and thay are just fine. The only argument I can see for an 8mm or larger wire is that you can abuse it a bit more when handling it and it will take it but for our uses there is no electrical advantage.
Another wich wire is best argument
Edit... I was never able to find an NGK wire to test so if you get some find out the resistance and figure the ohms per foot on them.
Last edited by Ganoid; 02-15-2005 at 02:40 PM.
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