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Old 02-23-2005 | 06:29 AM
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Waag Warning

Anyone looking to install a Waag grill guard, please heed this warning. Due to a terrible design, the screw that holds the smaller bars that cover the lights, sticks out on the inside of the bar where it wraps around the front of the fender. When driving, the bar shakes so much that the screw hits the fender. Now they do provide a plastic cap for the screw but that dosen't do much to prevent it from scratching the fender. I ended up covering the cap with some felt that is used for the legs of funiture to prevent them from scratching the floor.

I'm just thankful that my Manik bar is being delivered today and I can take this thing off. The only reason I got the Waag to begin with was becasue of an accident I had and the body shop couldn't find a Manik. They gave me the Waag whcih I told my insurance company was not correct and they agreed to pay for the Manik.
Old 02-23-2005 | 06:47 AM
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What year do you have... I have a waag on my 1999 and never had a problem
Old 02-23-2005 | 06:51 AM
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could they be replaced with smaller screws?
Old 02-23-2005 | 07:09 AM
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my westin is really solid. it does shimmy, but not anywhere near enough to touch the body.
Old 02-23-2005 | 07:35 AM
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Mine is an 01.

I was suprised when I heard the banging. It shimmy's way too much for my liking. i am not putting it past the body shop that they assembled it wrong. They weren't the brightest bunch of guys.

A samller screw might be possible, but dosen't matter because the Manik is being delivered today and will be put on this coming weekend.
Old 02-23-2005 | 01:36 PM
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I have a WAAG for my Tacoma (02) and I never experienced any wobbling of any sort.
Accidents on the other hand...
Old 02-24-2005 | 08:09 AM
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WAAG center guard here and it's rock solid. No movement or shimmy at all. I dunno....
Old 02-24-2005 | 08:12 AM
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I have WAAG Guards on 4 different trucks, and I dont have that problem. In fact, my 4Runner has the cap about 1/8" away from the fender..
Old 02-24-2005 | 08:51 AM
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I have a WAAG on my 95. It's pretty solid. Maybe you didn't tighten it down all the way?
Old 02-24-2005 | 08:59 AM
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Torque to 120ft. lbs.
Old 02-25-2005 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Gangus2006
Torque to 120ft. lbs.

I'm positive the body shop did not do that! Dosen't matter, the Manik came in this week and is my weekend project.

I figured I thorow a PSA for theres.

Thanks for all your replies though.
Old 02-25-2005 | 08:59 AM
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meH...dont forget the Loktite either.
Old 02-25-2005 | 09:25 AM
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I've got a '99 as well with no probs. Maybe the shop installed them incorrectly?
Old 02-25-2005 | 10:48 AM
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I've got a 98. No problems at all.
Old 02-25-2005 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Gangus2006
meH...dont forget the Loktite either.

I don't know if I'd do that.
Since I've put it on I've had to remove mine about 4-5 times for various reasons. I can't imagine having to deal with loctite when I'm already worried about how awkward the entire thing is...
Old 02-25-2005 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Tacoma Dude
I don't know if I'd do that.
Since I've put it on I've had to remove mine about 4-5 times for various reasons. I can't imagine having to deal with loctite when I'm already worried about how awkward the entire thing is...
Thats what a breaker bar is for man!
Old 02-25-2005 | 01:40 PM
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yeah to breaker bolt
Old 02-25-2005 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jhcmhower
yeah to breaker bolt
Ever heard of WD40?

"If it moves but shouldnt, use Duct Tape.
If it dosent move but should, use WD40"
Old 02-25-2005 | 04:23 PM
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WD-40 makes a difference with loc-tite?


EDIT:
and if you do use loc-tite don't you risk breaking off the nut in the frame too?
Old 02-25-2005 | 04:56 PM
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meH...Ive always used loktite and torqued down to 120ft.lbs., and Ive removed the one on the 97 Taco 5+ times, the one on the 4Runner twice, the one on the LX470 3 times...never had a problem.
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