VSC / TRAC defeating - is anyone closer?
#401
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Calrockx,
That was the initial intent, and we spent months theorizing how to integrate the factory TRAC OFF switch into the wiring. I even purchased one of the switches. In the end, no one really figured the wiring out, so I went with plan 'B'.
Since there really is no reason to shut the systems off while in traffic, the inconvenience of shutting the truck off and on, is a minor one. In all likelihood, you'll be offroad and will have the time to go through these steps.
Andreas
That was the initial intent, and we spent months theorizing how to integrate the factory TRAC OFF switch into the wiring. I even purchased one of the switches. In the end, no one really figured the wiring out, so I went with plan 'B'.
Since there really is no reason to shut the systems off while in traffic, the inconvenience of shutting the truck off and on, is a minor one. In all likelihood, you'll be offroad and will have the time to go through these steps.
Andreas
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calrockx,
I think you may just have to run that center connector to a good ground under the dash. I think that's what I did for the illuminated switch I used for my Hella 4000s.
Andreas
I think you may just have to run that center connector to a good ground under the dash. I think that's what I did for the illuminated switch I used for my Hella 4000s.
Andreas
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btw andreas, i didn't mean to disparage all the effort put into this mod by my post on how it doesn't turn on/off on the fly, i was just surprised. but you're right, i will be offroad whenever i use this mod, and having to restart is a minor issue. it's gonna be fun wheelin without the computers.
anyway, here's my version of the install:
and behind the dash:
it's a tight fit, i had to trim a bit (just a little of that plastic) back there, but it fits.
for the "trac off" text i just printed on a mailing label and cut to size. it's not the prettiest, but i think it looks fine.
i tried to get the led light to work too with the switch, but gave up after a while. i tried a ground behind the dash, but it didn't work. i've got a wire attached for the light to the third prong and just taped it up back there, i'll figure out how to make that work later.
i tested it on-road, and it works just fine. thanks to everyone who helped develop this mod.
EDIT: okay, well the switch worked normally as far as making the dash light up with VSC/TRAC/ABS lights, indicating on or off. but when the switch was off, the vsc and trac weren't active, as they should be. i determined it's the switch by making a straight connection of the wires on the switch end, and then everything worked normally. so i'm just gonna use a simpler 2-prong toyota fog light switch and that should do the trick.
anyway, here's my version of the install:
and behind the dash:
it's a tight fit, i had to trim a bit (just a little of that plastic) back there, but it fits.
for the "trac off" text i just printed on a mailing label and cut to size. it's not the prettiest, but i think it looks fine.
i tried to get the led light to work too with the switch, but gave up after a while. i tried a ground behind the dash, but it didn't work. i've got a wire attached for the light to the third prong and just taped it up back there, i'll figure out how to make that work later.
i tested it on-road, and it works just fine. thanks to everyone who helped develop this mod.
EDIT: okay, well the switch worked normally as far as making the dash light up with VSC/TRAC/ABS lights, indicating on or off. but when the switch was off, the vsc and trac weren't active, as they should be. i determined it's the switch by making a straight connection of the wires on the switch end, and then everything worked normally. so i'm just gonna use a simpler 2-prong toyota fog light switch and that should do the trick.
Last edited by calrockx; 05-18-2005 at 06:06 PM.
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calrockx,
Looks great! After I printed the "TRAC OFF" label, I shot the rocker portion of the switch with a few layers of satin polyurethane. The finish matches that of the rest of the switch and prevents the label from smearing or coming off down the road.
I guess that makes you number 3 with the official AndyMod™
Andreas
Looks great! After I printed the "TRAC OFF" label, I shot the rocker portion of the switch with a few layers of satin polyurethane. The finish matches that of the rest of the switch and prevents the label from smearing or coming off down the road.
I guess that makes you number 3 with the official AndyMod™
Andreas
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just wanted to make an update...
so like i said, this mod doesn't work with the three pronged, led fog light switch. so, i got the two pronged regular fog light switch (part # PT297-89013sw) today, installed it and this mod works just fine.
so like i said, this mod doesn't work with the three pronged, led fog light switch. so, i got the two pronged regular fog light switch (part # PT297-89013sw) today, installed it and this mod works just fine.
Last edited by calrockx; 07-20-2005 at 02:17 PM.
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Glad to hear it - that looks very clean!
One observation though: your mod list includes : "All-weather Floor Mats", but no mention of the "AndyMod™". Hmm. I would argue that the significance of this mod, to the automotive world in general, far eclipses that of a floor mat.
Just pulling your leg!
Andreas
One observation though: your mod list includes : "All-weather Floor Mats", but no mention of the "AndyMod™". Hmm. I would argue that the significance of this mod, to the automotive world in general, far eclipses that of a floor mat.
Just pulling your leg!
Andreas
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andreas, or anyone!
can someone post up a pic of the thing to remove in the engine bay to disable vsc & trac?? im going wheeling in NY tomorrow and cant remember for the life of me which one it is, and the pic in this thread is broken!
thanks!!
can someone post up a pic of the thing to remove in the engine bay to disable vsc & trac?? im going wheeling in NY tomorrow and cant remember for the life of me which one it is, and the pic in this thread is broken!
thanks!!
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Sorry... been away from the forum for awhile. I haven't cut those wires yet! As a matter of fact, I've haven't been back under the hood so I'll check and see what color the wires are. Did you come up with something or...?
Thanks,
Bill
Sorry... been away from the forum for awhile. I haven't cut those wires yet! As a matter of fact, I've haven't been back under the hood so I'll check and see what color the wires are. Did you come up with something or...?
Thanks,
Bill
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Well I don't know if anyone is still looking at this thread, but I ran into a problem a couple weeks ago pertaining to the traction control. I had added the switch to turn off the traction control and it worked fine for a couple months, but now, the lights stay on no matter what position the switch is in. Just wondering if anyone has ran into this problem. I did a search for this on yotatech and the other people who had this problem mentioned something about a valve that was bad or leaking, but I was wonding if my problem was related to this mod. Thanks.
-Simon
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Originally Posted by Simon
Well I don't know if anyone is still looking at this thread ...
I tried pulling the relay out around midnight, but couldn't see much and it didn't want to budge. I'll have another look tomorrow. I also keep forgetting to inquire about the TRAC OFF switch that is listed in the manuals ... dang! I have to call in the am!
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Yeah, I think I pulled that pink rely a long time ago and didn't see any noteble changes, i.e. warning lights for check engine lights. Here is the thread is was talking about where they said it might be a stuck valve. TRAC OFF, VSC TRAC, ABS lights on
Im just not sure if I can take it into a dealer to look at since I've been cutting wires and adding switches, they tend to frown on that sort of activity.
-Simon
Im just not sure if I can take it into a dealer to look at since I've been cutting wires and adding switches, they tend to frown on that sort of activity.
-Simon
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Simon,
Just got back into town. I too had problems after a few months and traced the issue to a broken wire at one of the crimp-on connections I had done. The wire was actually broken from crimping on the connector too firmly. I found better connectors and re-did the connections. No issues since. I think the whole setup is very sensitive to voltage fluctuations, so a bad connection would through the warning lights pretty easily.
Andreas
Just got back into town. I too had problems after a few months and traced the issue to a broken wire at one of the crimp-on connections I had done. The wire was actually broken from crimping on the connector too firmly. I found better connectors and re-did the connections. No issues since. I think the whole setup is very sensitive to voltage fluctuations, so a bad connection would through the warning lights pretty easily.
Andreas
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Hmm, intresting. I did look at the connections, but I didn't take off the crimps ons to see if the wire was broken. I gave the wires a little tug and everything seems connected, but maybe not. I'll take a closer look when I have some time.
-Simon
-Simon