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Old 12-17-2006 | 07:46 AM
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Transmission Problems

I have a 2000 4runner 3.4 auto. My check engine light came on last night and it felt like it was sticking in first gear. So I took it to Autozone this morning and they pulled one code which was P0758, which is a fault for shift solenoid B. Anyone know where this is located? I've heard its in the valve body on a 2nd gen, but couldn't find anything on 3rd gens.
Old 12-17-2006 | 07:51 AM
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im no tranny expert, but ive never seen a tranny that has its soleniods out of the vavle body. they should be in there.
Old 12-17-2006 | 07:54 AM
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This may help:
http://members.cox.net/mgriese5/Level10.html

I don't know which one was which but I've had them all out.
Old 12-17-2006 | 10:04 AM
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ok, thanks for your help. Any ideas how much the dealership charges? I'm still under waranty, hope its covered
Old 12-17-2006 | 10:10 AM
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if your still under warranty then what are you waiting for, get your a$$ in there lol.
Old 12-17-2006 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 20005spd
im no tranny expert, but ive never seen a tranny that has its soleniods out of the vavle body. they should be in there.
There are 3 solenoids in the valve body and one on the transfer case (if you have 4WD)

Solenoid B is definately in the valve body (need to remove the tranny pan to see it). If it is in fact still under warranty, then by all means bring it to the dealer and have them fix it for you. Tranny codes can be especially slow/difficult to diagnose and fix so it may be worth paying for a dealer to look at it anyway and at leats recommend a fix. Then if you feel it's in your mechanical abilities, we can help you go through it.
Old 12-17-2006 | 10:38 AM
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ok, thanks for your help. Any ideas how much the dealership charges? I'm still under waranty, hope its covered
Don't go with the stearlership unless the Tranny is covered in the warrenty!!!
The tranny went in our 02' Sport 4Runner and we took it to the stealership...
A couple of days later we get a call from them...
"Well it looks like were gonna need to repolace teh transmission, we can estimate you a price of arond $1,300.We would be replacing it with a refurbished transmission"
The thing is we went back to Toyota to get some stuff out of it...
And the car hadn't even budged from the spot where the tow truck dropped it off!!!
So we endded up takin it to Cottmen and having it rebuilt...
We didn't need a new transsmission, I forget exactly what was wrong, (If i recall it had something to do with the Overdrive...) but it was completly fixable for around the same price as the dealer wanted to put a refurbished on in and it drives just as it did the day it rolled off the lot, and it has 125K miles on it!!
I remember the first month stepdad got it, he was in NC and we had it for the week...
I did a burnout in the driveway unintentionally, and when we got it back from the tranny place after 125K miles later, he had to go to NC again and again I did a brunout...

When it comes to a major part like that Toyota dosen't want to take the time to take it out, see whats worng and repair it, they just want fast money...
Just my .02 on that subject...

IF the tranny is covered and there gonna FIX IT and not replace it with a REFURBISHED tranny then go for it!!

But I would rather have the orginall
Sorry for the rant but I just have no trust in Toyota when it comes to my transimission...
With the run around we went through I know not to go to them the next time...
Old 12-17-2006 | 10:54 AM
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...it was completely fixable for around the same price as the dealer wanted to put a refurbished on in and it drives just as it did the day it rolled off the lot, and it has 125K miles on it!!
Umm, so someone paid $1300 to fix a problem on a 125k tranny versus $1300 for a "refurb" which would have come with new clutch plates and a warranty?

Given only those two choices, I would have gone the other way. People get so freaked out about "refurbs", but I've generally found that those people don't understand what a refurb is.
Old 12-17-2006 | 11:07 AM
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Umm, so someone paid $1300 to fix a problem on a 125k tranny versus $1300 for a "refurb" which would have come with new clutch plates and a warranty?

Given only those two choices, I would have gone the other way. People get so freaked out about "refurbs", but I've generally found that those people don't understand what a refurb is.
We got a warrenty with the fix, sorry for forgeting to add that...

There was no new clutch invloved with the swap.. I believe..
at least so they told us...

I guess in my mined refurbished means takin out a tranny that craped out on one rig, fixing it and then trowing it into another...
But I could be wrong...

Sorry for saying refurbished I ment rebuilt (went to stepdad a couple of min ago to ask him)
Why couldn't they just rebuild ours and put it back in instead of taking another rebuilt tranny and trhowing it in there?
Just Toyota's mentality when it came to diagnosing the problem...
All they did was start up the Runner,
Try to put it in gear,
heard the grinding
and went "Oh time for a new tranny"
when I know it has pently good more miles on it...?
They didn't even move it into the garage, pull the tranny and diagnose the problem...

I just fail to see how Toyota can figure that a tranny that was babied can fail at 124K...
I had a olds with 195K on it, I beat the crap out of that tranny and it was still drivin as good as the day it came off the lot...
And I think the tranny fluid was replaced at 160K when it was officially handed over to me...
Just my .02
Old 12-17-2006 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by YotaFun
There was no new clutch invloved with the swap.. I believe..
at least so they told us...
If _Toyota_ is putting in a rebuild/refurb'd tranny, then it will be "like new" inside. New plates, new solenoids, possibly even a new torque converter.


I guess in my mined refurbished means takin out a tranny that craped out on one rig, fixing it and then trowing it into another...
But I could be wrong...

Sorry for saying refurbished I ment rebuilt (went to stepdad a couple of min ago to ask him)
Refurb/Rebuilt _from the dealer_ will be "returned to factory specifications". It's MUCH more than just fixing whatever the problem was that was keeping it out of overdrive.

Considering that you're doing burnouts in it when they're gone, that would have been the better choice.


Why couldn't they just rebuild ours and put it back in instead of taking another rebuilt tranny and trhowing it in there?
Time is money, and very few dealerships are actually rebuilding the tranny's on-site. That means they pull the tranny, send it out, wait on it, pay the rebuilder, then pick it up and put it back in. Versus having a "stock" of rebuilt A340's available to them that can pick one up and swap it out with about 6-8 hours of labor.

Dealer time charges are kicking around $100/hr. Figure $700 for the labor to pull and replace, then a "core" charge of $300-400 and you're near what they quoted you.

To tear down a tranny and do a rebuild will be about twice that labor charge, and then the core charge will be replaced by a parts charge (clutch plates, solenoid O-rings, 8+ quarts of ATF, etc).


Just Toyota's mentality when it came to diagnosing the problem...
All they did was start up the Runner,
Try to put it in gear,
heard the grinding
and went "Oh time for a new tranny"
Agreed.


when I know it has pently good more miles on it...?
They didn't even move it into the garage, pull the tranny and diagnose the problem...
See above - time is money. If they pull the tranny for a diagnoses YOU will get hit with that time charge. There's no freebie time in diagnosis from the dealer. So that's $700 just to see what's wrong.


I just fail to see how Toyota can figure that a tranny that was babied can fail at 124K...
They didn't figure it "failed". They made a judgment call based on "time is money".


I don't like dealer service either, but in this case, you're a bit off target on being angry at them.
Old 12-17-2006 | 12:41 PM
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Point taken...
Old 12-17-2006 | 01:19 PM
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Ya...its definately still under warranty. I'm just waiting for the dealership to open up tommorow morning. Thanx for the help!
Old 12-17-2006 | 02:03 PM
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Old 12-17-2006 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by midiwall
Time is money, and very few dealerships are actually rebuilding the tranny's on-site. That means they pull the tranny, send it out, wait on it, pay the rebuilder, then pick it up and put it back in. Versus having a "stock" of rebuilt A340's available to them that can pick one up and swap it out with about 6-8 hours of labor.
MDT commented on the same subject not too long ago:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...7&postcount=25
Old 12-18-2006 | 04:59 PM
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So I got it to the stealership this morning. They also found my left rear axle seal leaking, and my shift solenoid B was bad. Everything is covered under the warranty still! The runner is gonna be in the shop till Friday I'm driving a scion TC for a rental. thing is tiny!!
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