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Old 06-01-2003 | 01:53 PM
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Toyota Surf headlights

Does anyone here who has a 2003 Surf know if your headlights are E-code or DOT? I am looking to put HID's in my truck, i actually ordered a kit, but I am cancelling it. I was thinking that if the headlights in the Surf are E-code, I could buy a set of those and put HID's in them, which would cut down on glare that the DOT housings produce. Just an idea...not sure if im going to do it.
Old 06-01-2003 | 02:39 PM
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If your talking about a Surf rather than a 4 Runner...then they probably aren't DOT. 4 Runners in the US market are DOT.
Old 06-01-2003 | 03:24 PM
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Why would E-Codes have less of a glare? Don't E-Codes have a bigger light pattern? Thus letting the light out further in front of the car and at a higher angle. That was a popular mod back in the days of when I owned my Volvo. But the did it to get more light, not less.
Old 06-01-2003 | 03:48 PM
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Re: Toyota Surf headlights

Originally posted by Diablo3305
Does anyone here who has a 2003 Surf know if your headlights are E-code or DOT? I am looking to put HID's in my truck, i actually ordered a kit, but I am cancelling it. I was thinking that if the headlights in the Surf are E-code, I could buy a set of those and put HID's in them, which would cut down on glare that the DOT housings produce. Just an idea...not sure if im going to do it.
I'm pretty sure all my glass, lights have DOT but I'll check when I go out in about an hour.
Old 06-01-2003 | 04:11 PM
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Yeah those JDM headlights would look real good on your rig
Old 06-01-2003 | 04:14 PM
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diablo you have any way to get them, im looking for the tailights but i cant find anyone to import a set
Old 06-01-2003 | 04:27 PM
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I just checked and my headlights are NOT DOT.
Old 06-01-2003 | 04:29 PM
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ok answer this question what the heck is DOT and e-code?
Old 06-01-2003 | 05:45 PM
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Well, don't know the actual word for word def. but they are two different light patterns that are allowed. Apparently overseas, they allow for a larger light pattern (light extends furtner away from vehicle).
But I always thought that E-codes we "european" spec, but that was when I was only really into european cars. I don't know for everywhere else, whether its E-code or what, but I know DOT standards are more strict and allow for less light, so people get the E-Codes, though they are suppose to be "off-road" use only.
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DOT is US standards set by the Department Of Transportation. Hence the letters "DOT" That why you'll only see them on US headlights.

Note the increased illumination of overhead signs, which also results in higher glare levels for oncoming drivers. Maximum allowed illumination is 28,000 candela.
Headlights following european standards (ECE) are labled E followed by a number. Note the much lower glare levels above citoff and sharp horisontal cutoffs. Maximum allowed illumination is 38,000 candela.
Harmonized headlights are labled (example E4 DOT. They can legally be used on both continents, but a true ECE headlamp will always have higher output.
Headlights following japanese marked (JDM) has a vertically mirrored ECE pattern, and is for driving on the left side of the road only.

Basically....Japanese Surf headlights will not work in US 4 Runners and vice-versa.

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Old 06-01-2003 | 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by impulsebrklyn
diablo you have any way to get them, im looking for the tailights but i cant find anyone to import a set

ive been looking, nothing has come up yet. I also like the tail lights that I have seen on the japanese sites. They have some pretty cool stuff
Old 06-01-2003 | 08:22 PM
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Basically....Japanese Surf headlights will not work in US 4 Runners and vice-versa.

bah.... scratch that idea then...i may just try to put them in the stock housings and see how much glare they produce... I think im gonna try to find someone around here who has a 9006 they would let me test before i go buy them. My other option is to buy it, and sell if it i don't like the results...
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