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Old 01-29-2003, 02:41 PM
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Rolling the runner over

I jsut got back from a nice little trail ride/mudding and a few times my runner slid side ways and came close to rollong over... or atleast clsoe to it. What can I do to help keep it more stable and on all 4 wheels. look at my sig for info on my ride
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I have the perfect solution, learned from my roll. Foolproof.

Don't turn the wheel.

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Unfortunately, I would not be able to help you

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this is not encouraging.. thoes are some nasty shots... how did yall's trucks do after the roll... jsut body damage or structual...
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Just what does one tell his insurance company when you call in a claim after a roll over.

"Uhhhh, Allstate? Yes, I need to process a claim please. I, uh, went to the zoo and the monkeys pounded my car with cocoanuts. Can you help me please?"

They should believe you, right?
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I don't think there's much you can do, if you play, you gotta pay. It's like my old woodshop teacher, Mr. Wood, (yes, his name is actually Mr Wood) use to say, if you do it long long enough it's bound to happen...he was talking about cutting off fingers and he was missing a few.

1. You can try adding weight low on the frame to lower the CG. Try adding sliders and a rear bumper. Schaefer said adding his bumper made his runner more stable.

2. If it's slow going, then a lot of competition rockcrawlers will tie a strap to the top somewhere and have somebody hold it tight to help prevent a rollover. Caution, this could be dangerous.

3. If you have a lot of camping gear then pack it so that the heavy stuff is on the bottom.

4. EXOCAGE!

5. Have somebody else go first.

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Ditch the roof rack if you are having problems keeping it upright. It makes your high center of gravity higher. I doubt its a problem with your vehicle.

Maybe try not being so crazy with the power slides.
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Originally posted by tomus1000
Just what does one tell his insurance company when you call in a claim after a roll over.

"Uhhhh, Allstate? Yes, I need to process a claim please. I, uh, went to the zoo and the monkeys pounded my car with cocoanuts. Can you help me please?"

They should believe you, right?
I specifically asked AAA if they cover off roading and they said they do.

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Originally posted by Robinhood150

5. Have somebody else go first.

Steve
Classic!


Since you can't lengthen your wheelbase you can try wheels with a smaller offset - this will push the wheels further out from the frame and improve vehicle stability. Also, its better to approach a hill at an angle than sideways. That seems obvious but people get stupid from time to time. If at all possible go straight up or down a hill.
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jtree007-

dont really have a response..sorry, but, where did you go? im in atl too...
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Originally posted by doink
jtree007-

dont really have a response..sorry, but, where did you go? im in atl too...
I live out over in conyers.. and there are some small trails out by a powerline right of way ... sorta hard to expalin.. but nuting that big really... Just wanted to play in the mud for a bit from today's rain
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I saw something a while ago online about a company that offered pretty wide wheel spacers. I know, I know, wheels spacers aren't good because there's less lug space for the bolt to hold onto. Well, I kept reading and found out they also made longer lugs! Unfortunatly I didnt bookmark the page, but I know it's out there somewhere. Those, along with wider tires should help a great deal.
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It only rolled 90 degrees onto the side, if it had gone further I would have had to buy a Can Back and I didn't have the money. Totally mashed the front fender in, debeaded the tire, dented the door, smashed the side mirror, few dents in the bed/back. What's really amazing is that we all had to get out the drivers window, first me then the two girls in the back, each standing on the big guys' shoulders, and he was standing on the pass window! Didn't break one window either in the roll or the escape.
Next morning we had to use another truck and a tractor to flip it back over, ran out of film so didn't get any pics of the damage. Put the spare on, started it up, blew smoke for a minute, then drove it home. Spent hours pounding out the door and the back, left the front fender totally mashied in, later removed it. Never put any money into it due to the roll. Nobody was hurt. Drove it for 2 years after.
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Ask Mercedes for some help !!



Prehaps they will do a retrofit kit !!

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Then i found this


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So is that saying driving fast is safer than slow?
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Originally posted by kerrs
Then i found this


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eek! i better slow down. I take it pretty hard in the turns... '95 4runner with 31's.
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Originally posted by kerrs
Then i found this


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Where did you find that? Was there any more info on that page?
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looks like this is where the pic came from

http://www.sjblaw.com/news/summer98.html
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I would be that it was much farther from rolling over than you think. I don't know what lift and tires you have, but (no offense intended) you sound like your new to the sport. I remember the first time I thought I was going to roll, major pucker factor. Those around me were laughing as they could see from outside the vehicle that I was no where close to rolling, but inside, I was sure that one more degree and over I'd go.

I still pucker early, but not till I'm over 45 degrees. A new driver will pucker at about 20 degrees, which is no where close to rolling, unless, you're driving like an idiot.

I'm running on 8" of lift, 37" tires and a very soft suspension and 45 degrees is not a problem. I have increased wheel length by 3" and am running 10" rims with 2.75" backspacing, so that helps a little. I also try to never pack anything on top of the rig.

This was almost 45 degrees on the inclinometer. Felt a lot more tipsy than it looks. http://207.202.208.243/faithwheelers/Cap004.jpg

I asked for some help with a roof push here, but it was refused as they said I was no where close. They stood by in case I cried though...
http://207.202.208.243/faithwheelers/ev05.jpg

Here's a little video where I got out to check things out as I was concerned. http://207.202.208.243/faithwheelers/122902_02.htm

For those that want to see my poser truck. This was my second ever trail run.
http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/travels/shaw_lake.html

The attached picture is from my first trail run. This is the entrance of 311 at Evan's Creek. I just about flipped but again, I was no where close. Just for a fun comparison, here's a shot of the vehicle articulation now. http://207.202.208.243/faithwheelers/st12.jpg


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