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Old 12-11-2004, 11:54 AM
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red fluid in the tcase??

hey folks!

spent the morning at the shop changing out the fr/rr diff fluids, front was good colour, rear was chocolate milk. oops!! got water somewhere, bad me. i went to do the tcase, removed the fill plug, dipped my pinkie in to check the level and it came out red. so im thinking atf as toy 283 said in one of his posts. hmmm, put the fill plug back in and finished some other work on the runner. stopped at the stealer on the way home and asked about what is supposed to be in there. he says 75w90, i said whats in there is red, like atf. he looks puzzled and goes to check with a tech. comes back and says no, your 93 uses 75w90. he did say that the supras used some indestructable gear oil that is red and 80$/litre. maybe the po was a fanatic and used this stuff, dont know and cant find out. parts guy says if your not sure what it is, get it out. so, its back to the shop next saturday to change out the red stuff for 75w90. unless, anybody here has any ideas they want to toss out? tia.

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Old 12-11-2004, 12:12 PM
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nope, don't do it! a v6 chain driven case uses ATF dextron 3 for fluid. not gear oil as in the 4 cyl transfer cases! leave the red stuff in!
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my 91 Auto uses ATF
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Bought the full FSM set(1990 runner) and my 3.0 auto calls for dex lll. in the transfer case.
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˟˟˟˟in' stealer idiots. I bet if they put gear lube in it and something happened, then they wouldn't cover it as their mistake either.

Typically for Toyota Trucks...

If you have an auto, then your XFcase gets ATF

If you have a manual, then your XF case gets 75W90
Old 12-12-2004, 06:22 AM
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hey guys!

thanks for the replies, seems the consensus is atf. im not sure how long that has been in there, its still nice and red and doesnt smell burned. im thinking to just replace it anyway, then im set for the spring time wheeling. the next major job will be the transmission, flush out the old stuff, clean up the pan, new gasket/filter and put it all back together and fill her up. looks like i have some reading to do!

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Originally Posted by leebee
hey guys!

thanks for the replies, seems the consensus is atf. im not sure how long that has been in there, its still nice and red and doesnt smell burned. im thinking to just replace it anyway, then im set for the spring time wheeling. the next major job will be the transmission, flush out the old stuff, clean up the pan, new gasket/filter and put it all back together and fill her up. looks like i have some reading to do!

lee
Not that changing the fluid is a bad idea, but don't wait for it to turn brown or smell burnt. Because the transfer case doesn't generate heat like the Transmission, the chances of it getting burnt are slim, and it doesn't exchange fluid with the transmission.
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The trans and transfer case are a single unit and can only be taken apart from inside the trans. They both use the same atf and it travels through the whole unit. They definitley don't use gear oil or anything near that viscous. Stay away from whoever told you that. A flush will change the ATF in the tranny and transfer case. Good luck with it.
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Originally Posted by Babypig
The trans and transfer case are a single unit and can only be taken apart from inside the trans. They both use the same atf and it travels through the whole unit. They definitley don't use gear oil or anything near that viscous. Stay away from whoever told you that. A flush will change the ATF in the tranny and transfer case. Good luck with it.
Not so, the transfer and transmission bolt together with an adapater, but the fluid is kept separate by seals and the adapter. And again the 4cyls used gear driven cases (gear oil) and the 6 cyl's used a chain driven case (atf)
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the owners manual will state in it what it takes. but i says its ATF most have changed to that now.
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So what does my 97' sr5 v-6 auto 4runner use in the t-case?? When I changed it it looked like gear oil coming out so thats what I put back in it. Thats also what the chiltons manual said. Thanks
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Originally Posted by ARB4STUNNA
So what does my 97' sr5 v-6 auto 4runner use in the t-case?? When I changed it it looked like gear oil coming out so thats what I put back in it. Thats also what the chiltons manual said. Thanks
97s have the a340f and a different transfer case, if i'm not mistaken.
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Originally Posted by shiftless89
Not so, the transfer and transmission bolt together with an adapater, but the fluid is kept separate by seals and the adapter. And again the 4cyls used gear driven cases (gear oil) and the 6 cyl's used a chain driven case (atf)
The Tranny and transfer case are bolted together from the inside of the trans and transfer case. No adapter is used, which makes them fun to work on. The chain case can be removed from the outside i believe, but the transfer case itself requires alot of work and getting very dirty, and a good memory.
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well, just to update everyone, the 93 auto v6 does use atf in the tcase. seems the guys at the stealer didnt scroll down far enough when checking their online/inhouse data base. i had to reiterate the specs of my rig several times for them as each time someone new came along (parts, service & techs) they would say 'gear oil' and i would ask if they were sure. got some strange looks and hmmms when it was finally figured out. wish me luck tomorrow, im going under the rig again to finish what should have been an easy job. thanks for all your replies and insight, that is what makes this a great group!

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So has anybody been able to answer the question as to what the 1997 V-6 takes in it's transfer case?
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Service Manual say 1 1/9 qts. of 75W-90 gear oil!!
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