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New Suspension Setup - TRD Front Lift for a 3rd Gen 4Runner!
#122
Originally Posted by bamachem
LOL... here's another KINK added to the mystery...
'04 DC V8 4x4 TRD Off-Road Pkg. markings:
Top/Bottom=Blue/Red-Pass. side
Top/Bottom=Yellow/Red-Driver side
'04 DC V8 4x4 TRD Off-Road Pkg. markings:
Top/Bottom=Blue/Red-Pass. side
Top/Bottom=Yellow/Red-Driver side
I know that the 05's have the YY/BY. I think which coils you get are subject to what Jeb & Opie feel like using.
#125
Here are my flex pics. I know I could get substantially more travel in both the and rear, had I not been posing on a road barrier in a State Park. Let me work on this. Overall, I think this works very well. Can't wait to test it on the trail.
I felt I could get better measurements from the top of the wheel, rather from the center of the hub.
Numbers removed, look further for Bamachem's calculations.
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On a side note: The thing drives like a frikin boat without the sway bar!
I felt I could get better measurements from the top of the wheel, rather from the center of the hub.
Numbers removed, look further for Bamachem's calculations.
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On a side note: The thing drives like a frikin boat without the sway bar!
Last edited by User 051420; 10-18-2004 at 02:10 PM.
#126
Adding 8.25" to each measurement yeilds Gapguy's "Center of Hub" measurements (16" wheels are 16.5" diameter - they have a 0.25" lip for the bead)
I have 2WD TRD Tundra Coils w/ a 3/8" Thick "Revtek-Type" Custom spacer.
Gapguy has 4WD TRD Tundra Coils w/ the EXACT SAME 3/8" thick spacer that I made for him.
Also worth noting is that he has a 2" BL where my measurements are with a 1" BL installed. I will also show the actual and corrected measurements.
BLUE = My Actual Measurement / Corrected Measurement
RED = Your Measurement / Corrected Measurement
(Corrected Measurements are subtracting out the BL's to compare Apples to Apples.)
Front normal height: 22.75" / 21.75" : 24.00" / 22.00"
Front compressed height: 18.25" / 17.25" : 19.25" / 17.25"
Front extended height: 25.75" / 24.75" : 26.00" / 24.00"
Front overall travel: 7.50" : 6.75"
% of suspension travel is compression: 60% : 70%
% of suspenstion travel is extension: 40% : 30%
Rear normal height: 23.00" / 22.00" : 24.25" / 22.25"
Rear compressed height: 14.75" / 13.75" : 16.00" / 14.00"
Rear extended height: 32.50" / 31.5" : 33.75" / 31.75"
Rear overall travel: 17.75" : 17.75"
% of suspension travel is compression: 46% : 46%
% of suspenstion travel is extension: 54% : 54%
Well, it looks like Gapguy's front end wasn't completely flexed, but the ride height is almost EXACTLY the same when my winch and SC are taken into account (approx 0.20" drop for 100#). I'm willing to bet that he could push it a little more and match my numbers on the front. The rear, well what can I say... they're EXACTLY the same measurements...
Conclusion: The 2wd TRD and the 4WD TRD Tundra Coils are essentially the same and are basically interchangable.
I have 2WD TRD Tundra Coils w/ a 3/8" Thick "Revtek-Type" Custom spacer.
Gapguy has 4WD TRD Tundra Coils w/ the EXACT SAME 3/8" thick spacer that I made for him.
Also worth noting is that he has a 2" BL where my measurements are with a 1" BL installed. I will also show the actual and corrected measurements.
BLUE = My Actual Measurement / Corrected Measurement
RED = Your Measurement / Corrected Measurement
(Corrected Measurements are subtracting out the BL's to compare Apples to Apples.)
Front normal height: 22.75" / 21.75" : 24.00" / 22.00"
Front compressed height: 18.25" / 17.25" : 19.25" / 17.25"
Front extended height: 25.75" / 24.75" : 26.00" / 24.00"
Front overall travel: 7.50" : 6.75"
% of suspension travel is compression: 60% : 70%
% of suspenstion travel is extension: 40% : 30%
Rear normal height: 23.00" / 22.00" : 24.25" / 22.25"
Rear compressed height: 14.75" / 13.75" : 16.00" / 14.00"
Rear extended height: 32.50" / 31.5" : 33.75" / 31.75"
Rear overall travel: 17.75" : 17.75"
% of suspension travel is compression: 46% : 46%
% of suspenstion travel is extension: 54% : 54%
Well, it looks like Gapguy's front end wasn't completely flexed, but the ride height is almost EXACTLY the same when my winch and SC are taken into account (approx 0.20" drop for 100#). I'm willing to bet that he could push it a little more and match my numbers on the front. The rear, well what can I say... they're EXACTLY the same measurements...
Conclusion: The 2wd TRD and the 4WD TRD Tundra Coils are essentially the same and are basically interchangable.
Last edited by bamachem; 10-18-2004 at 02:07 PM.
#127
I'm gonna work on finding a better spot to fully flex this. I KNOW it can do much better. Why would anybody want to buy OME 882's and have a stiffer ride, less lift, and less travel? This IS the solution. Thank you guys!
#128
Let me post this again so EVERYONE can plainly see it...
According to this comparison between my 2WD TRD Tundra Coils and 3/8" top spacer and Gapguy's 4WD TRD Tundra Coils and the exact same 3/8" Top Spacer... the coils are essentially the SAME.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...&postcount=126
Conclusion: The 2wd TRD and the 4WD TRD Tundra Coils are essentially the same and are basically interchangable.
According to this comparison between my 2WD TRD Tundra Coils and 3/8" top spacer and Gapguy's 4WD TRD Tundra Coils and the exact same 3/8" Top Spacer... the coils are essentially the SAME.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...&postcount=126
Conclusion: The 2wd TRD and the 4WD TRD Tundra Coils are essentially the same and are basically interchangable.
#129
gapguy, how do you like the 891's? Do they ride stiff? I'm trying to do the same lift and am debating whether to go with the Downey's or the OME. I have a pretty heavy rear end also...(hella stereo crap) Thanks for the help. BTW...your truck looks sweet.
Oh and do you have a stock sway bar?
Oh and do you have a stock sway bar?
Last edited by Noel; 10-18-2004 at 02:16 PM.
#130
Originally Posted by Noel
gapguy, how do you like the 891's? Do they ride stiff? I'm trying to do the same lift and am debating whether to go with the Downey's or the OME. I have a pretty heavy rear end also...(hella stereo crap) Thanks for the help. BTW...your truck looks sweet.
Oh and do you have a stock sway bar?
Oh and do you have a stock sway bar?
And yeup, I have a stock sway bar. Disco's needed.
Last edited by User 051420; 10-18-2004 at 02:22 PM.
#133
See that's the thing. I don't know if I have these bumpstops or not. I called with my VIN number and they told me that the recall was not needed on my truck. So I assume that means I have them? The other thing you should know is that I'm really new at this and adding anything probably isn't as easy as it is to you guys. I do, fortuntately, know a guy who's gonna help me install this stuff and he's a toyota mechanic. I was hoping to do this in one shot but that might not work out. I have a fair amount of stereo stuff. JL 12W7 which weighs 40 pounds alone and then a decent amount 3/4" mdf worth of amp racks and cargo storage. And I wanted to add a tubular rear bumper in the future. I'm tryin to compensate for all that stuff in the beginning and it seems like that might not be possible. That I should just go ahead and install the suspension and see what happens.
Last edited by Noel; 10-18-2004 at 02:37 PM.
#134
Noel-
The bumpstops are quite obvious if you have them. Take a quick peek. The reason you might not "need" the recall is because of the Canadian origin. Trust me, you could easily install these coils and spacers. Do you think you have more weight than me? I have two 12" subs, one big amp, and a 5lb toolbox + MDF. If you have more than me, I doubt you'd lose much height. If so, might I suggest the OME 891's or even the 892's if you have a LOT more weight? Don't worry too much, go with the Downeys alone, I want to see your results.
The bumpstops look like the image on the right, but not reaching all the way to the axle.
The bumpstops are quite obvious if you have them. Take a quick peek. The reason you might not "need" the recall is because of the Canadian origin. Trust me, you could easily install these coils and spacers. Do you think you have more weight than me? I have two 12" subs, one big amp, and a 5lb toolbox + MDF. If you have more than me, I doubt you'd lose much height. If so, might I suggest the OME 891's or even the 892's if you have a LOT more weight? Don't worry too much, go with the Downeys alone, I want to see your results.
The bumpstops look like the image on the right, but not reaching all the way to the axle.
Last edited by User 051420; 10-18-2004 at 02:46 PM.
#135
Thanks so much for your help gapguy. I just ran out to take some pics as well. I didn't see that thingy running down the middle of the rear coil. Here are the shots I took.
http://jango.netheads.com/noel_boys/...s/IMG_2152.JPG
http://jango.netheads.com/noel_boys/...s/IMG_2154.JPG
http://jango.netheads.com/noel_boys/...s/IMG_2152.JPG
http://jango.netheads.com/noel_boys/...s/IMG_2154.JPG
#138
Originally Posted by gapguy
I'm gonna work on finding a better spot to fully flex this. I KNOW it can do much better. Why would anybody want to buy OME 882's and have a stiffer ride, less lift, and less travel? This IS the solution. Thank you guys!