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Old 10-18-2004 | 10:08 AM
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LOL... here's another KINK added to the mystery...

'04 DC V8 4x4 TRD Off-Road Pkg. markings:
Top/Bottom=Blue/Red-Pass. side
Top/Bottom=Yellow/Red-Driver side
Old 10-18-2004 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bamachem
LOL... here's another KINK added to the mystery...

'04 DC V8 4x4 TRD Off-Road Pkg. markings:
Top/Bottom=Blue/Red-Pass. side
Top/Bottom=Yellow/Red-Driver side
Crazy....
I know that the 05's have the YY/BY. I think which coils you get are subject to what Jeb & Opie feel like using.
Old 10-18-2004 | 10:28 AM
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Yup. That's what I said about two weeks ago. Still no word from the factory on the list they use to determine which colors go on which trucks. I'm holding my breath on that one.
Old 10-18-2004 | 11:01 AM
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So what are you waiting for, then?!?!
TIME. its not at the top of my priority list either.
Old 10-18-2004 | 12:56 PM
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Here are my flex pics. I know I could get substantially more travel in both the and rear, had I not been posing on a road barrier in a State Park. Let me work on this. Overall, I think this works very well. Can't wait to test it on the trail.

I felt I could get better measurements from the top of the wheel, rather from the center of the hub.

Numbers removed, look further for Bamachem's calculations.
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On a side note: The thing drives like a frikin boat without the sway bar!

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Old 10-18-2004 | 01:40 PM
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Adding 8.25" to each measurement yeilds Gapguy's "Center of Hub" measurements (16" wheels are 16.5" diameter - they have a 0.25" lip for the bead)

I have 2WD TRD Tundra Coils w/ a 3/8" Thick "Revtek-Type" Custom spacer.
Gapguy has 4WD TRD Tundra Coils w/ the EXACT SAME 3/8" thick spacer that I made for him.

Also worth noting is that he has a 2" BL where my measurements are with a 1" BL installed. I will also show the actual and corrected measurements.

BLUE = My Actual Measurement / Corrected Measurement
RED = Your Measurement / Corrected Measurement
(Corrected Measurements are subtracting out the BL's to compare Apples to Apples.)

Front normal height: 22.75" / 21.75" : 24.00" / 22.00"
Front compressed height: 18.25" / 17.25" : 19.25" / 17.25"
Front extended height: 25.75" / 24.75" : 26.00" / 24.00"
Front overall travel: 7.50" : 6.75"
% of suspension travel is compression: 60% : 70%
% of suspenstion travel is extension: 40% : 30%

Rear normal height: 23.00" / 22.00" : 24.25" / 22.25"
Rear compressed height: 14.75" / 13.75" : 16.00" / 14.00"
Rear extended height: 32.50" / 31.5" : 33.75" / 31.75"
Rear overall travel: 17.75" : 17.75"
% of suspension travel is compression: 46% : 46%
% of suspenstion travel is extension: 54% : 54%


Well, it looks like Gapguy's front end wasn't completely flexed, but the ride height is almost EXACTLY the same when my winch and SC are taken into account (approx 0.20" drop for 100#). I'm willing to bet that he could push it a little more and match my numbers on the front. The rear, well what can I say... they're EXACTLY the same measurements...

Conclusion: The 2wd TRD and the 4WD TRD Tundra Coils are essentially the same and are basically interchangable.

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Old 10-18-2004 | 01:44 PM
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I'm gonna work on finding a better spot to fully flex this. I KNOW it can do much better. Why would anybody want to buy OME 882's and have a stiffer ride, less lift, and less travel? This IS the solution. Thank you guys!
Old 10-18-2004 | 01:55 PM
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Let me post this again so EVERYONE can plainly see it...

According to this comparison between my 2WD TRD Tundra Coils and 3/8" top spacer and Gapguy's 4WD TRD Tundra Coils and the exact same 3/8" Top Spacer... the coils are essentially the SAME.

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...&postcount=126

Conclusion: The 2wd TRD and the 4WD TRD Tundra Coils are essentially the same and are basically interchangable.
Old 10-18-2004 | 02:14 PM
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gapguy, how do you like the 891's? Do they ride stiff? I'm trying to do the same lift and am debating whether to go with the Downey's or the OME. I have a pretty heavy rear end also...(hella stereo crap) Thanks for the help. BTW...your truck looks sweet.

Oh and do you have a stock sway bar?

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Old 10-18-2004 | 02:19 PM
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gapguy, how do you like the 891's? Do they ride stiff? I'm trying to do the same lift and am debating whether to go with the Downey's or the OME. I have a pretty heavy rear end also...(hella stereo crap) Thanks for the help. BTW...your truck looks sweet.

Oh and do you have a stock sway bar?
I like the 891's. They hold my weight well, and ride pretty decent. As you can see, they don't limit the rear travel at all. They ARE a LITTLE bit stiffer than the Tundra Coils, but this isn't a serious issue. I'm going to try the Downey coils for "seat of the pants" comparision; might even goto Bilstein HD's out back just for kicks. However, I do think I'll have to add a small spacer to the Downey's as I THINK I carry more weight than Bamachem. Although.....I might be taking off the tow hitch soon....who knows.

And yeup, I have a stock sway bar. Disco's needed.

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Old 10-18-2004 | 02:25 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply. Where can I find a spacer to go in the rears with the Downey's? Is this a custom job or can I purchase them from a store? Thanks again for help. Helping one newbie at a time
Old 10-18-2004 | 02:27 PM
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Try it without a spacer first..It isn't difficult to add one later. Do you have the conical bumpstops? Maybe Bamachem can have some 3/8" rear spacers made too?
Old 10-18-2004 | 02:33 PM
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See that's the thing. I don't know if I have these bumpstops or not. I called with my VIN number and they told me that the recall was not needed on my truck. So I assume that means I have them? The other thing you should know is that I'm really new at this and adding anything probably isn't as easy as it is to you guys. I do, fortuntately, know a guy who's gonna help me install this stuff and he's a toyota mechanic. I was hoping to do this in one shot but that might not work out. I have a fair amount of stereo stuff. JL 12W7 which weighs 40 pounds alone and then a decent amount 3/4" mdf worth of amp racks and cargo storage. And I wanted to add a tubular rear bumper in the future. I'm tryin to compensate for all that stuff in the beginning and it seems like that might not be possible. That I should just go ahead and install the suspension and see what happens.

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Old 10-18-2004 | 02:37 PM
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Noel-
The bumpstops are quite obvious if you have them. Take a quick peek. The reason you might not "need" the recall is because of the Canadian origin. Trust me, you could easily install these coils and spacers. Do you think you have more weight than me? I have two 12" subs, one big amp, and a 5lb toolbox + MDF. If you have more than me, I doubt you'd lose much height. If so, might I suggest the OME 891's or even the 892's if you have a LOT more weight? Don't worry too much, go with the Downeys alone, I want to see your results.

The bumpstops look like the image on the right, but not reaching all the way to the axle.

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Old 10-18-2004 | 02:53 PM
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Thanks so much for your help gapguy. I just ran out to take some pics as well. I didn't see that thingy running down the middle of the rear coil. Here are the shots I took.
http://jango.netheads.com/noel_boys/...s/IMG_2152.JPG

http://jango.netheads.com/noel_boys/...s/IMG_2154.JPG
Old 10-18-2004 | 02:54 PM
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Oh and I'll go ahead and get those Downey's on without the spacers and see what kind of results I get.
Old 10-18-2004 | 02:57 PM
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To AIM it goes...

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Old 10-18-2004 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by gapguy
I'm gonna work on finding a better spot to fully flex this. I KNOW it can do much better. Why would anybody want to buy OME 882's and have a stiffer ride, less lift, and less travel? This IS the solution. Thank you guys!
what color were the tags on your coils?
Old 10-18-2004 | 03:25 PM
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what color were the tags on your coils?
yellow/yellow blue/yellow
Old 10-18-2004 | 04:23 PM
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Post 3rd lift.



Notice the nose down?


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