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New Suspension Setup - TRD Front Lift for a 3rd Gen 4Runner!
#763
no change in height on the front. the rear is now higher than it was by about an inch. i went from long OME's and 2WDTRD coils to blue tokicos and 4WDTRD coils. i hate changing CV's - and even worse is loosing wheelin' time when one does break.
i have one spacer per side.
i used the FZJ80 front coils on my rear axle. they are complimented by an airlift 1000 air bag kit. the bags help w/ the weight of the rear bumper, and eliminate the need for lower bump stops since the bags do it for me.
i should have the LC shocks here and on by next weekend, and possibly the adjustable panhard bar as well.
btw: all my original stuff is now up for sale...
i have one spacer per side.
i used the FZJ80 front coils on my rear axle. they are complimented by an airlift 1000 air bag kit. the bags help w/ the weight of the rear bumper, and eliminate the need for lower bump stops since the bags do it for me.
i should have the LC shocks here and on by next weekend, and possibly the adjustable panhard bar as well.
btw: all my original stuff is now up for sale...
Last edited by bamachem; 11-10-2006 at 05:30 AM.
#765
I know this has gone back and forth a few times in search of the best set up but I thought the Blue Tocikos fell out of favor for the Trek Masters.
Not trying to nit pick. Just want to understand.
Thanks for you continued "research" which all of us have learned something from.
Not trying to nit pick. Just want to understand.
Thanks for you continued "research" which all of us have learned something from.
#766
for all practical purposes, they are pretty much the same from what i understand. however, the blue tokicos are WAY more expensive than the green trekmasters. i got these used, and wanted to try them out.
i drove the runner to work this morning. first impression is that the tokicos are ever so slightly softer than the OME's. the feel is good, and is very nice on the highway.
i wasn't paying attention when i was installing everything. i was in a rush to get done and put the wrong coil on the driver side. i figured that out when i went to install the pass side. in order to NOT have a lean, i just left the top plate spacer off the pass side this time around. it sits level... anyway, i'll swap them to the correct sides w/ top spacers on both sides when i tear into the CV swap soon. i should have about 1/2" more lift on the front when i do that. it has a pretty good rake now - but not as bad as in those initial pics. i forgot that i had the bags inflated to about 20 psi in those pics, lifting the rear another 3/4" or so. i typically run them at about 5 psi or so on the road.
i drove the runner to work this morning. first impression is that the tokicos are ever so slightly softer than the OME's. the feel is good, and is very nice on the highway.
i wasn't paying attention when i was installing everything. i was in a rush to get done and put the wrong coil on the driver side. i figured that out when i went to install the pass side. in order to NOT have a lean, i just left the top plate spacer off the pass side this time around. it sits level... anyway, i'll swap them to the correct sides w/ top spacers on both sides when i tear into the CV swap soon. i should have about 1/2" more lift on the front when i do that. it has a pretty good rake now - but not as bad as in those initial pics. i forgot that i had the bags inflated to about 20 psi in those pics, lifting the rear another 3/4" or so. i typically run them at about 5 psi or so on the road.
#767
That makes perfect sense to me.
I am in the process of converting from my SAWs to this lift in front. I have OME in the rear an those I love so they stay.
I am sure it is no surprise to you but the saws have rusted so bad that I cannot adj or rebuild them. I am kind of an extreme case though because I live right on the beach and my daily commute is along the beach for 10 miles each way. They did not stand a chance.
So I have a set of coils and now need to get the extended studs and shocks. THen I will be set and hopefully be in the clear.
I would not fault you for posting a big "I told you so".
I am in the process of converting from my SAWs to this lift in front. I have OME in the rear an those I love so they stay.
I am sure it is no surprise to you but the saws have rusted so bad that I cannot adj or rebuild them. I am kind of an extreme case though because I live right on the beach and my daily commute is along the beach for 10 miles each way. They did not stand a chance.
So I have a set of coils and now need to get the extended studs and shocks. THen I will be set and hopefully be in the clear.
I would not fault you for posting a big "I told you so".
#769
I know this has gone back and forth a few times in search of the best set up but I thought the Blue Tocikos fell out of favor for the Trek Masters.
Not trying to nit pick. Just want to understand.
Thanks for you continued "research" which all of us have learned something from.
Not trying to nit pick. Just want to understand.
Thanks for you continued "research" which all of us have learned something from.
Oh also, I bought all of the Tokico Green shocks that the US warehouse had. They will not have any more in until January. I have sold out everything I bought as well. No greens for a few months.
But of course, I have a black Heavy Duty Tokico in the line up already that I can get. You can also still get the super expensive blue ones as well.
Last edited by sschaefer3; 11-10-2006 at 07:13 AM.
#770
Thanks!
I am currently running a set of your spacers on top of the saws for some out of the pack lift and that seemed to work well so I already have those.
I have a thread up looking for a set of used Tociko blues on TTORA but will probably end up just buying a new set of Trek Masters from Steve. That way I know they will be good for a few years at least.
I am currently running a set of your spacers on top of the saws for some out of the pack lift and that seemed to work well so I already have those.
I have a thread up looking for a set of used Tociko blues on TTORA but will probably end up just buying a new set of Trek Masters from Steve. That way I know they will be good for a few years at least.
#772
#773
I am interested in that.
Any pics of these bad boys?
Same size piston as the greens or are just the lower bushings larger?
#774
Yes Seriously. I bought them all and have sold them all.
I'm off right now to pick up a few kits worth of coils from the dealer and these shocks should be there today or Monday.
Everything is the same as the after market green shock except for the lower bushing. Serious Heavy Duty. They are stock black however. Not much BLING!
I'm off right now to pick up a few kits worth of coils from the dealer and these shocks should be there today or Monday.
Everything is the same as the after market green shock except for the lower bushing. Serious Heavy Duty. They are stock black however. Not much BLING!
#776
eric,
as you know I am running the green tokico trekmasters. I feel they are a little soft for high speed stuff. I was bouncing and bottoming out a lot at superstition. I can tell the bilstiens in my truck would be better for the high speed stuff. The green shocks are good for rock crawling and rutted trails, but going fast, they are just too soft.
I think you might be better off with the blue more expensive ones, they get stiff at the end of travel is what I hear. Or billstiens might be better. Its kind of a tough decision since you like to play in the dunes and go slow too. Just my 2 cents.
b
as you know I am running the green tokico trekmasters. I feel they are a little soft for high speed stuff. I was bouncing and bottoming out a lot at superstition. I can tell the bilstiens in my truck would be better for the high speed stuff. The green shocks are good for rock crawling and rutted trails, but going fast, they are just too soft.
I think you might be better off with the blue more expensive ones, they get stiff at the end of travel is what I hear. Or billstiens might be better. Its kind of a tough decision since you like to play in the dunes and go slow too. Just my 2 cents.
b
#778
i was thoroughly amazed at the performance my "bling" blues had on washboard parts of the road, basically small whoops that i was able to double at about 55-60mph. never bottomed out once. was pretty smooth too. i was aired down to 20 psi. as well.
#780
lol... about time somebody asked.
steve used to run yokohama's, and somehow got the nickname yokohomo - i can't remember exactly how. from there, it mutated into yokohomo burrito. now, the yoko's are long gone and it got dropped to homoburrito... he has homo burrito, so a few of us are just picking on him about it. i'm chile relleno, then there's huevos rancheros, chimichanga, etc...
i got the coils swapped to the correct sides today and i have the correct amount of lift - about 2" or just over - with one spacer per side. looks good and drives VERY good. suprisingly, it's softer than the OME setup and actually feels EXACTLY like my father-in-law's bone-stock 2000 tundra on the road - NICE. the rears are perfect in my book - just as soft as the downeys, but slightly taller and i was able to get rid of my rear homebrew spacers. just higher than the front. nice and soft on the road (from the soft coils) and don't bottom or lean thanks to the air bags limiting travel - and on top of that, it's adjustable.
steve used to run yokohama's, and somehow got the nickname yokohomo - i can't remember exactly how. from there, it mutated into yokohomo burrito. now, the yoko's are long gone and it got dropped to homoburrito... he has homo burrito, so a few of us are just picking on him about it. i'm chile relleno, then there's huevos rancheros, chimichanga, etc...
i got the coils swapped to the correct sides today and i have the correct amount of lift - about 2" or just over - with one spacer per side. looks good and drives VERY good. suprisingly, it's softer than the OME setup and actually feels EXACTLY like my father-in-law's bone-stock 2000 tundra on the road - NICE. the rears are perfect in my book - just as soft as the downeys, but slightly taller and i was able to get rid of my rear homebrew spacers. just higher than the front. nice and soft on the road (from the soft coils) and don't bottom or lean thanks to the air bags limiting travel - and on top of that, it's adjustable.
Last edited by bamachem; 11-11-2006 at 06:46 PM.