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#683
Originally Posted by sschaefer3
Yes. Ones a drives side, ones a passenger side.
The front OME shock is too long. Too much droop and the CV's come apart from too much angle. While the OME shock has a nice huge shaft, it is not the best choise here requieing limiting straps to pull it back.
How long is it? Just as long as a set of $1000 Camburg SAW's.
Which are the same as the 2.0 SAW's, which are the same as an Aftermarket Bilstein.
This is NOT the stock black shock that came on your truck.
http://www.sonoransteel.com/rear_shocks.html
It's all there.
The front OME shock is too long. Too much droop and the CV's come apart from too much angle. While the OME shock has a nice huge shaft, it is not the best choise here requieing limiting straps to pull it back.
How long is it? Just as long as a set of $1000 Camburg SAW's.
Which are the same as the 2.0 SAW's, which are the same as an Aftermarket Bilstein.
This is NOT the stock black shock that came on your truck.
http://www.sonoransteel.com/rear_shocks.html
It's all there.
Hey, i have a 2.5" cornfed spacer on top of a bilstein shock just like in this picture. Based on these two pictures, is my set up longer overall than the tundra spring and double cab shocks? i'm wondering because my cv boots are shot after 5 or 6 weeks with only one wheeling trip. If this set up is shorter than will this save my CV's? if so, i'm gonna go with this setup up front. Thanks.
#684
Originally Posted by shotking4
Hey, i have a 2.5" cornfed spacer on top of a bilstein shock just like in this picture. Based on these two pictures, is my set up longer overall than the tundra spring and double cab shocks? i'm wondering because my cv boots are shot after 5 or 6 weeks with only one wheeling trip. If this set up is shorter than will this save my CV's? if so, i'm gonna go with this setup up front. Thanks.
Your assembly and all of these are the same length, there are spacers that increase the length, but none of those are pictured. Cornbred spacers put the "meat" inside the pack, so your assemblies are not longer.
I would imagine that your issue may be too much lift. Are you over 2" ?
Over 2" seems to greatly increase wear and tear on the boots.
#685
Originally Posted by shotking4
Hey, i have a 2.5" cornfed spacer on top of a bilstein shock just like in this picture. Based on these two pictures, is my set up longer overall than the tundra spring and double cab shocks? i'm wondering because my cv boots are shot after 5 or 6 weeks with only one wheeling trip. If this set up is shorter than will this save my CV's? if so, i'm gonna go with this setup up front. Thanks.
Even with the diff drop my stock outer clamps gave way and spilled some grease on both driver and passenger side... I ended up prying out the stock ones and replacing them with regular hose clamps.
#686
Originally Posted by grimpy
Rockstomper Sliders
I'm willing to bet you have MY old original sliders.
Did you buy them from Mark in AZ? If so they are my old sliders.
#687
Sorry to fill this thread with banter. I did do the diff drop from Cornfed, its a 1". My spacers that i ordered were supposed to be 2.5" all around but the front sits up a little higher than the front so i think i definately got more than 2.5" of lift.
Steve, thanks for your reply. I figured that without any topout spacers, my coil spacer and shock would be the same length but i wasn't sure. I understand that the OME shocks are longer and that would account for a longer "coilpack." i wound up ordering a 2.5" daystar spacer from wheelers cause i don't have the cash right now to do anything else. i know its just a quick cheap fix, but oh well. If i still have bad angles, i'll start another thread about it. I didn't want to add another CV angle thread though.
Thanks for your help guys.
Steve, thanks for your reply. I figured that without any topout spacers, my coil spacer and shock would be the same length but i wasn't sure. I understand that the OME shocks are longer and that would account for a longer "coilpack." i wound up ordering a 2.5" daystar spacer from wheelers cause i don't have the cash right now to do anything else. i know its just a quick cheap fix, but oh well. If i still have bad angles, i'll start another thread about it. I didn't want to add another CV angle thread though.
Thanks for your help guys.
Last edited by shotking4; 12-01-2005 at 06:33 AM.
#688
Actually the Daystar spacer splits the load and will add 1" to the over all length, but that is really not the problem.
The issue is that you are up too high. I think I have the lowest prices on Daystar stuff. Did you pay more than $95.00 for the front spacers?
That's what I sell them for. Also a 1" diff drop only removes around 1/2" of lift from the CV's.
The issue is that you are up too high. I think I have the lowest prices on Daystar stuff. Did you pay more than $95.00 for the front spacers?
That's what I sell them for. Also a 1" diff drop only removes around 1/2" of lift from the CV's.
#689
i forgot that you sell them steve. do you make a bigger diff drop, like a 1.5"? i got my drop from cornfed when i ordered my spacers. the spacer was 99 i think from wheelers. should have shopped around, damn.
#690
A 1" diff drop is really all you can do as the vacuum actuator is extremely close to the cross member at that point.
My u-joints are perfectly straight. One of the benefits of a Dana 44.
I am willing to sell the "resale" parts like Daystar and TJM at dealer cost if you also order some of the custom parts myself or Stubbs makes. With re-selling you make such a small profit, it's almost not worth it, with custom made parts, your time is what pays.
Order a diff drop and I would have floated the Daystar spacers at my cost. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.
My u-joints are perfectly straight. One of the benefits of a Dana 44.
I am willing to sell the "resale" parts like Daystar and TJM at dealer cost if you also order some of the custom parts myself or Stubbs makes. With re-selling you make such a small profit, it's almost not worth it, with custom made parts, your time is what pays.
Order a diff drop and I would have floated the Daystar spacers at my cost. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.
#693
Just an idea, but I noticed that the part numbers indicate it's for a 2000-2002 Tundra Access Cab. What do you think would be different if I got the springs for the 4-door model. Do you think we could eliminate the need for the top out spacer even more. The only thing I wouldn't want is them to be stiffer, just longer.
Chris
Chris
#694
Originally Posted by ravencr
Just an idea, but I noticed that the part numbers indicate it's for a 2000-2002 Tundra Access Cab. What do you think would be different if I got the springs for the 4-door model. Do you think we could eliminate the need for the top out spacer even more. The only thing I wouldn't want is them to be stiffer, just longer.
Chris
Chris
#695
The Sequoia springs are in fact longer. No one here has tried them and no one here will have any clue about them what so ever.
Seriously, no one is going to know anything. But here are the part numbers. We never went there. So don't ask me any more questions because I don't have any more info.
Here are the part numbers for the Sequoia coils:
Left Side: 48131-AF120 @ 380mm
Right Side: 48131-AF110 @ 372mm
The Tundra coils are the EXACT same length as the 4Runner coils only the wire is thicker.
The Sequoia coils are indeed longer.
Seriously, no one is going to know anything. But here are the part numbers. We never went there. So don't ask me any more questions because I don't have any more info.
Here are the part numbers for the Sequoia coils:
Left Side: 48131-AF120 @ 380mm
Right Side: 48131-AF110 @ 372mm
The Tundra coils are the EXACT same length as the 4Runner coils only the wire is thicker.
The Sequoia coils are indeed longer.
#696
Originally Posted by sschaefer3
The Sequoia springs are in fact longer. No one here has tried them and no one here will have any clue about them what so ever.
Seriously, no one is going to know anything. But here are the part numbers. We never went there. So don't ask me any more questions because I don't have any more info.
Here are the part numbers for the Sequoia coils:
Left Side: 48131-AF120 @ 380mm
Right Side: 48131-AF110 @ 372mm
The Tundra coils are the EXACT same length as the 4Runner coils only the wire is thicker.
The Sequoia coils are indeed longer.
Seriously, no one is going to know anything. But here are the part numbers. We never went there. So don't ask me any more questions because I don't have any more info.
Here are the part numbers for the Sequoia coils:
Left Side: 48131-AF120 @ 380mm
Right Side: 48131-AF110 @ 372mm
The Tundra coils are the EXACT same length as the 4Runner coils only the wire is thicker.
The Sequoia coils are indeed longer.
Chris
P.S. I know you said not to ask any questions, bu these are mainly about the stock coils.
#697
1999 4Runner, V6, 4WD, 16" wheels:
48131-35400
368mm
2004 Tundra, V8, 4WD:
48131-AF310
363.5mm
2004 Sequoia, V8, 4WD:
48131-AF120
380mm
You can't see the 4.5mm difference when you set the coils side by side. Hence to avoid confusion, it is easier to say the 4Runner and the Tundra are the same. The 99 4Runner is a hair longer, but the 96-98 and 01-02 and Most of the 00's are a good amount shorter than the Tundra coil. A very small amount of very late 98 production, 98's got the 99 coils too. Some of the very early 2000 production 2000's got the 99 coils, 2000's made in 1999. The rest got the low riders.
Last edited by sschaefer3; 12-06-2005 at 06:57 AM.
#698
so, the sequoia coils are probably the same spring rate as the NON TRD Tundra coils, but may be NON PROGRESSIVE and are 17mm longer than the tundra springs. that equates to about 2/3 of an inch.
however, if they are NON PROGRESSIVE (since they are NON TRD) then you may find the ride quite stiff...
however, if they are NON PROGRESSIVE (since they are NON TRD) then you may find the ride quite stiff...
#699
Originally Posted by bamachem
so, the sequoia coils are probably the same spring rate as the NON TRD Tundra coils, but may be NON PROGRESSIVE and are 17mm longer than the tundra springs. that equates to about 2/3 of an inch.
however, if they are NON PROGRESSIVE (since they are NON TRD) then you may find the ride quite stiff...
however, if they are NON PROGRESSIVE (since they are NON TRD) then you may find the ride quite stiff...