Wow... Really? I thought you had 891's...

Well, I guess that 3" is the norm and they settle to 2.5" then.

 

yea i run the 890s. Ive got them on there with the cones and a 10mm packer and im sitting just under 3".

its becoming more obvious to me that ride-height increases per coil spring varies from vehicle to vehicle, they are just so many variables.

 

FWIW, A 10MM Trim packer and the cones is pretty much the same as a 1" Cornbred spacer. You will be within 3/16" of the same height, the CB being 3/16" taller.


At this point I am pretty much giving up on the "pre-made" rear coils. I am going to have a set made one the Alcans settle in that matches the front and holds 300 pounds over stock. Target is 3 to 3.5" of lift.

 

10mm Timpacker is a little more than 3/8" and a little less than 7/16". The cones are another 1/2". Those add up to almost an inch, like steve said. You're just under 3" with those, so without them, you're DEAD ON 2". If you use the conical bumpstops, then you'd be at ~2.5". Besides, when you get down to less than half-inch differences, you should ask yourself "does it really matter?" more than likely, the answer is no. if you're a touch low in the rear, then add a trimpacker. if you're a touch high, then add a flat washer or two to the studs on top of the front spacer (b/w the spacer and the top plate to distribute the load and NOT just on top of the spacer).

 

Steve-

Just curious if you had considered using the OME 892 rear coils or not? Are they just too high in spring rate? Inquiring minds...

 

the 892's are supposedly the same height but a higher spring rate and therefore STIFF.

 

Yea i remember the cone and trim packer being about 3/4" thick.


Having the rubber cone in between the coil and the frame is a pretty good idea in my book, theres a reason Toyota put it there right?


ARB USA told me the spring rate of the 892 coils is the same as the 891 coils. Furthermore, the 891 coils have the same spring rate of the 890 coils. The only difference between the 892, 891, 890 coils is the length of the coil.

 

Hmmm...more conflicting info.

I, too have heard that the 892's are a higher spring rate. The real reason I bring it up is that I am pretty well sick of my 891's. I have said this before, and as time goes on, it seems to annoy me more.

Here is what I think part of the problem is: I really think these (891) coils are progressive. I'm not sure if this has ever been documented, but I remember when they were new, right out of the box, that the top 2 or 3 turns were spaced much closer together than the rest of the tunrs on the coil. Now, after almost two years, those top 3 turns are touching where the coil has sagged. Before they sagged, the ride was a bit smoother. Nowthat these three turns are touching, the ride is a little firmer. Isn't that what progressive coils are supposed to do? I dunno...I am sitting at ~2 inches of lift with the cones in there after almost two years of use. I have a 5' x 10' utility trailer I use maybe once or twice a month, mostly to haul trash and yard waste to the dump from some porjects we have going on at the house. I have the stock rear bumper and a tow hitch, so I don't think I am overloading these, but...who knows.

I only know of a few people who are running the 892's, and was just trying to see what others thought. I do have plans to build a rear bumper one of these days, so maybe 892's would work for me once that on there...Maybe I just got a bad pair of 891's, too.

 

Just get some Downey 3.5"/2.5" coils... Expensive as ˟˟˟˟ @ $260/pair, but they don't sag (as bad as OME) and are nice and smooth.

 

I have a set of Downey's maybe I should swap them back in with the 1" spacer.

 

Maybe Downey's, indeed...

Anyone ever tow with them?

 

Didn't you already try that with your original bumper (w/ tire carrier)?

 

Do I have a tire carrier anymore? That was the added weight that had the problem. Also at the time no one knew if the OME shock was longer than the Bilstein. Now we do.

The OME rear shock is the most idea bolt in rear shock, the 891's are fine and I do really like them, but if I can get more lift out of the Downeys, I'm all for not spending any more money.

In a perfect world, I would get a set of custom rear coils made and swap in Bilstein 5125's. But that all takes more money, which I have spent quite a bit lately.

You'll be all set with the Tundra/OME & 891/OME. It will be really nice.

 

Copy all...I forgot what the status of the tire carrier was when you switched coils.

 

Andy, are you still running the bilsteins up front?? If so, are you still liking them??
I think I'm gonna go with the tundra coils up front without the topout spacer and the 891's in the back without the rubber isolater cone. I want to maximize flex but only want 1.5 - 2 inches of lift for now... no need to go higher with my 265's.

 

yeah, i still like them. i'm thinking of switching over to the OME front shocks since that's what i'm recommending that people get (easier to get). i also like the OME's in the back, and w/ all the positive feedback, i know they'll be a good fit.

891's will give you 2.5-3" to begin with, and then settle to about 2.25"-2.5" or so. If you want a lower stance, then consider the Downey 2.5/1.5" lift coils or the OME 906's. dowey's will give a solid 1.5" and the 906's will give 2". the front tundra coils w/ the spacer on top will be 2.0" and without the spacer will be 1.5" - guaranteed.

2" is about right for 265-75's. add a 1-1.5" body lift to run 285's or 305's after that...

if i swap my front out to the OME's, would you be interested in my current setup?

 

Is that with the rubber isolater cone installed?? My thoughts were to install the 891's without the cones to bring it back down about a half inch. Then that way if i decide to go to 285's or even 305's i can put the cone back in and run your topout spacer up front to get a little more lift for the bigger tires.

What would you let the bilsteins go for? I might be interested. How many miles are on them and what kind of shape are they in? I was also considering the ome's up front, but then there's the whole thing about the need to install limiting straps with the longer shocks and the top out spacer.
are you going to put on limiting straps if you go to the ome's??

 

i thought the downey 1.5/2.5" rear coils were for the sec gen 4runners only?

sorry if im misunderstood

 

I believe downey makes two sets of rear coils for the 3rd gen, the 2.5"/3.5" and a 1"/2".
check out their site --> http://www.downeyoff-road.com

 

Yep, I have a set of the 3.5" rear coils (they only give ~2.5" lift) sitting in my garage right now (went to OME 891s). Great coils but I went to the OMEs when I had the Rockware bumper put on.