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Old 01-09-2005 | 06:30 AM
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Speaking of limiting straps....

Is this a good insurance plan? I don't mind welding the tabs for this, but what size straps should be used front and rear?

Also, are you sure the cup is supposed to face up? Because every install I've seen shows them in the down position....

e.g. See the Coil is OVER the cup, in the DOWN position
Old 01-09-2005 | 06:38 AM
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I have told Brian at least 10+ times to take that pic down. IT IS WRONG.


Bilstein cups go DOWN, Old Man Emu go UP.

Take the bogus pic down or add to the site it is installed incorrectly.
Old 01-09-2005 | 06:39 AM
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Sit tight on the straps, I'm working on it. Hopefully in the next day or two I'll have that added to my site.
Old 01-09-2005 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sschaefer3
I have told Brian at least 10+ times to take that pic down. IT IS WRONG.


Bilstein cups go DOWN, Old Man Emu go UP.

Take the bogus pic down or add to the site it is installed incorrectly.
Old 01-09-2005 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by socal98runner
Speaking of limiting straps....

Is this a good insurance plan? I don't mind welding the tabs for this, but what size straps should be used front and rear?
this is how Total Chaos does their limit straps, you can do a similar set-up on the stock arms. Just weld a tab to the lower control arm and the bracket to the upper.

https://www.yotatech.com/attachment....achmentid=4433

a 10" to 12" strap should work fine, weld the lower mount on first then, test assemble everything, to see where the top mount need to be welded. When I did mine, I swapped the brake line mount tabs from the left side to the right. This give more room to locate the upper mount.

18" strap on the rear


https://www.yotatech.com/attachment....achmentid=2957

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Old 01-09-2005 | 08:02 AM
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My way is way easier. Only top mount to weld. Look for the kit on my store page in a day or two.
Old 01-09-2005 | 05:53 PM
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Feeding the wolves
Before:

After:


PS. Just did diff drop.
Old 01-10-2005 | 10:39 AM
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So, bamachem, how much do you think you are in for $$$ with the entire front end done? I have some coil springs waiting for me in Kentucky, so I don't need to worry about the rear right now.

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Old 01-10-2005 | 10:46 AM
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Another question... I am not ready to lift my truck yet. It seems from a quick read you are getting your lift from spacers and not the springs. Can I get the improved ride benefits without the lift for now and be able to add the spacers for the lift later on? My shocks are so worn out the slightest bumps are annoyingly harsh. When I get back to Colorado I'll want to install the lift.

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Old 01-10-2005 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Sherpa
Another question... I am not ready to lift my truck yet. It seems from a quick read you are getting your lift from spacers and not the springs. Can I get the improved ride benefits without the lift for now and be able to add the spacers for the lift later on? My shocks are so worn out the slightest bumps are annoyingly harsh. When I get back to Colorado I'll want to install the lift.

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The TRD Tundra coils are good for 1.5" of lift by themselves. However, you WILL want to install the longer studs ahead of time, unless you want to do the job twice.

Ride benefits? The TRD coils are firmer.........
Old 01-10-2005 | 10:57 AM
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The TRD Tundra coils are good for 1.5" of lift by themselves. However, you WILL want to install the longer studs ahead of time, unless you want to do the job twice.

Ride benefits? The TRD coils are firmer.........

I am tempted to start another thread for this.... Which makes the ride, shocks or coils? I understand that if the coils are too firm, you can't get full flex and if they are too soft, well... the truck would probably feel like it is a Cadillac on the highway. Stiff shocks would likely make you feel every imperfection in the road. I just don't know what the best setup is of the four possibilities. Shocks/Coils soft/soft, soft/firm, firm/soft, and firm/firm.
Old 01-10-2005 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sherpa
I am tempted to start another thread for this.... Which makes the ride, shocks or coils? I understand that if the coils are too firm, you can't get full flex and if they are too soft, well... the truck would probably feel like it is a Cadillac on the highway. Stiff shocks would likely make you feel every imperfection in the road. I just don't know what the best setup is of the four possibilities. Shocks/Coils soft/soft, soft/firm, firm/soft, and firm/firm.
Re-read this thread. there is a clear explanation of the billies HD, OME, and stock red billies. they are different types of shocks (i.e. high pressure and low pressure) and therefore provide varying ride characteristics.
Old 01-10-2005 | 01:15 PM
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this thread should end
Old 01-10-2005 | 03:27 PM
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this thread should end
I disagree. It's always much better to have old threads than many, many new threads covering the same topics. This thread's topic has been covered many times now, though.
Old 01-10-2005 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sherpa
I am tempted to start another thread for this.... Which makes the ride, shocks or coils? I understand that if the coils are too firm, you can't get full flex and if they are too soft, well... the truck would probably feel like it is a Cadillac on the highway. Stiff shocks would likely make you feel every imperfection in the road. I just don't know what the best setup is of the four possibilities. Shocks/Coils soft/soft, soft/firm, firm/soft, and firm/firm.
Read the thread newb if ya want the 411 or PM bamachem.

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I say that b/c the questions being asked have already been answered. They are throughout the thread. I know b/c I have read it countless times. I am not saying there is anything wrong with the thread, but rather the info provided regards the Tundra springs and their relation to other setups. Aside from the info provided, those of us with the new setup have given reports post-install.
It's just starting to feel like beating a dead horse.
I am extremely appreciative for this info, but really...
Old 01-10-2005 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit
Read the thread newb if ya want the 411 or PM bamachem.

That's really all I meant
Old 01-10-2005 | 07:18 PM
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Ok, for those of you who wanted to see the shaved upper arms and limiting straps. Here you go.

http://fastq.com/~sschaefer/Tundra_Extras.html
Old 01-10-2005 | 07:57 PM
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Hey Steve,

Got a Q for ya. Was I supposed to take out the rear coil bumpstop? (Inside the coil) or do I just leave it or trim it?

I got home late today, so the bar will have to go tomorrow.

Thanks again!
Aj.
Old 01-10-2005 | 08:01 PM
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You can just leave them in, they are not going to do anything. It's the outter ones that you can replace and lower a bit to compensate for the lift.


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