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New Suspension Setup - TRD Front Lift for a 3rd Gen 4Runner!
#341
Ok, I took the Tundras through Martinez. They did great as well as the stock/modified a-arms.
Gaylon, you got yourself a prestine set of ATS arms.
BUT...............
The Tundra coils ARE NOT for everyone. They are soft, very very soft. They are perfect for me and Andy will get a big wet kiss when ever I see him, but if you only wheel once or twice a year, I think I would build a set of Frankensteins with the 99 4Runner coils.
The Tundra coils with the front and rear sway bars are like the 4Runner coils with the front bar off. They are nice and soft and hug the terrain like crazy, Typically a stiff front end will make the rear do all the work, for articulation. Tundra coils do not, they pull their weight. The truck with the lift still works like it should, like a stock truck does, but you are 2" higher and are rolling on 35's.
Gaylon, you got yourself a prestine set of ATS arms.
BUT...............
The Tundra coils ARE NOT for everyone. They are soft, very very soft. They are perfect for me and Andy will get a big wet kiss when ever I see him, but if you only wheel once or twice a year, I think I would build a set of Frankensteins with the 99 4Runner coils.
The Tundra coils with the front and rear sway bars are like the 4Runner coils with the front bar off. They are nice and soft and hug the terrain like crazy, Typically a stiff front end will make the rear do all the work, for articulation. Tundra coils do not, they pull their weight. The truck with the lift still works like it should, like a stock truck does, but you are 2" higher and are rolling on 35's.
Last edited by sschaefer3; 11-07-2004 at 07:17 PM. Reason: Fix tongue man
#342
Originally Posted by sschaefer3
Ok, I took the Tundras through Martinez. They did great as well as the stock/modified a-arms.
Gaylon, you got yourself a prestine set of ATS arms.
BUT...............
The Tundra coils ARE NOT for everyone. They are soft, very very soft. They are perfect for me and Andy will get a big wet kiss when ever I see him, but if you only wheel once or twice a year, I think I would build a set of Frankensteins with the 99 4Runner coils.
The Tundra coils with the front and rear sway bars are like the 4Runner coils with the front bar off. They are nice and soft and hug the terrain like crazy, Typically a stiff front end will make the rear do all the work, for articulation. Tundra coils do not, they pull their weight. The truck with the lift still works like it should, like a stock truck does, but you are 2" higher and are rolling on 35's.
Gaylon, you got yourself a prestine set of ATS arms.
BUT...............
The Tundra coils ARE NOT for everyone. They are soft, very very soft. They are perfect for me and Andy will get a big wet kiss when ever I see him, but if you only wheel once or twice a year, I think I would build a set of Frankensteins with the 99 4Runner coils.
The Tundra coils with the front and rear sway bars are like the 4Runner coils with the front bar off. They are nice and soft and hug the terrain like crazy, Typically a stiff front end will make the rear do all the work, for articulation. Tundra coils do not, they pull their weight. The truck with the lift still works like it should, like a stock truck does, but you are 2" higher and are rolling on 35's.
Last edited by justinh; 11-07-2004 at 07:12 PM.
#343
Originally Posted by justinh
i agree with this, took mine to tellico this weekend, ride is great, one guy that was there with SAWS came with me on a rescue trip where we did some fast driving on gravel roads to get to the trails and then ran two trails in and out and is now a firm believer. They ride like a cadillac. They are very soft, and do soak up small jumps rather well as i accidentally found out
Makes sence.
#344
Originally Posted by Mad Chemist
Out of curiosity, and being too lazy to re-read every page of this post- what's the comparision between the new setup and the Bling Bling (SAWS) setup with front swaybar disconnected. I need some comparison data to convince me that my SAWS are crap.
I still have the same amount of lift, but I can now stuff them closer to the bumpstops, about 1/8" away.
Before adding the spacer the closest I could come to touching was about an inch!
Now I am in SoCal and go to the desert alot, so the ability to soak up the washboard floors of the desert is good for me. Plus I have always loved the freeway ride they give.
So the spacer was an acceptable medium for me, it allows me a little more stuff on the crawling type trails and still have the ability to handle the high speed desert runs.
#345
Originally Posted by sschaefer3
The Tundra coils ARE NOT for everyone. They are soft, very very soft. ..The Tundra coils with the front and rear sway bars are like the 4Runner coils with the front bar off. They are nice and soft and hug the terrain like crazy...
#346
Originally Posted by justinh
i agree with this, took mine to tellico this weekend, ride is great, one guy that was there with SAWS came with me on a rescue trip where we did some fast driving on gravel roads to get to the trails and then ran two trails in and out and is now a firm believer. They ride like a cadillac. They are very soft, and do soak up small jumps rather well as i accidentally found out
#347
I'm really not noticing these coils being softer than 4Runner coils. I feel better handling over stock, and these work much better offroad than the 882's or SAW's. More body roll, it's lifted, so yes...but nothing excessive.
#351
Originally Posted by gapguy
I'm really not noticing these coils being softer than 4Runner coils. I feel better handling over stock, and these work much better offroad than the 882's or SAW's. More body roll, it's lifted, so yes...but nothing excessive.
Also HUGE difference. You have HIGH PRESSURE GAS Bilstein shocks, if they are Yellow. The OME front shock is LOW PRESSURE GAS, huge difference.
The Red Bilstein Andy has is supposed to be low pressure, but Ihave never seen one. Compareing the Yellow Bilstein to a Heavy Duty OME shock is like comparing 2 things soo different, it's would be crazy.
#352
Originally Posted by RTdawgs
obviously, but i meant more than the 4R coils or SAWs.
#353
Finally, I have almost everything installed and WOW!!! Thanks to everyone who has helped with the best suspension setup. The only thing i have left to do is switch out those god awful yellow billies in the rear. The ride is soft adn it takes bumps with ease. Just wanted to say thanks again
#357
Originally Posted by RTdawgs
its already on, its always been on. but the swaybar didnt help with the body roll?
So coming from the SAW's and the 881's it will be a pretty good change for you.
Just go slower.
#358
Originally Posted by bamachem
You definitely get more body roll, but my driving style has calmed down a ton over the last few years, so going a touch slower around the bends doesn't bother me a bit.
#359
Originally Posted by FilthyRich
Compared to the PP setup with the billies, my limited actually feels luxurious again
You'll destroy it.
#360
Originally Posted by RTdawgs
geeze. i feel like i already have a lot of body roll. after i switched to 881s from SAWs, the 881s felt a lot more stable, less roll. but the 881s arent cutting it for me, they drove me nuts this weekend on my first real 4WD trip since they were on. they have a real hard time compressing and extending over quick, sharp bumps on the forest service roads, its quite jarring.