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Old 10-25-2004 | 09:48 AM
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His aftermarket arms are contributing to the excess droop on top of the possibility that the OME shocks are longer. My numbers show that. Steve, do you have any hub-to-fender measurements to share?

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Old 10-25-2004 | 09:55 AM
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His aftermarket arms are DEFINITELY contributing to the excess droop. My numbers show that. Steve, do you have any hub-to-fender measurements to share?
No, I never measures since it was hitting the physical stops on both extremes.

How do you want me to measure?
Old 10-25-2004 | 09:58 AM
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center of hub, vertically to the bottom of the fender.

those dimensions can be compared to both mine and gapguy's measurements in previous posts.
Old 10-25-2004 | 10:00 AM
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gapguy's measurements in previous posts.
I wouldn't compare anything to my numbers. I was not fully flexed...working on that.

I wanna go up an inch and maintain my droop.....
Old 10-25-2004 | 10:11 AM
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I see what you're saying, but we need to compare static numbers too...
Old 10-25-2004 | 11:10 AM
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I see what you're saying, but we need to compare static numbers too...
Ok, I jacked it up in the garage.

From the center of the Aisin Locking Hub, right at the "S" to be exact to the bottom of my flare-less fender is: 27.5"

This is full droop tp physical limits. I will be cutting is about 1" shorter.

Stuff I can't do in the garage.
Old 10-25-2004 | 11:16 AM
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Cool. Now what about at-rest and not jacked up. Just sitting there on all 4 tires...

Wow... 27.5" w/ a 1" BL is a corrected 26.5" (obviously) where I'm at about 24.75" at ALMOST full droop. I'll throw my shop jack under it tonight and get an "off the floor" measurement to see what the FULL DROOP is w/ the Billies.

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Old 10-25-2004 | 11:23 AM
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Do you see a need for the rear spacer? I'm almost dragster with this setup and the 891's.....Smashed my skidplate (snapped a bolt too) and the bottom of my ARB...
According to the measurements you gave me earlier and the pic you posted, you look like you're sitting level... Have things changed since then? You posted that your rear was 1/4" higher than the front, but you say it looks like a dragster? Why?
Old 10-25-2004 | 11:29 AM
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Back out to the Garage..........................


That number, would be 25". I drove around the block after jacking the one side up.
Old 10-25-2004 | 11:43 AM
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So, you're at 25" sitting level in the Garage and 27.5" fully drooped? Something's not right there. I'm at 22.75" sitting level and 25.75 at almost full droop. Even giving my flares a half-inch, that would mean that you have almost 1.5 more inches of lift, and a half-inch less droop. We both have the same 1" RB BL, same top spacer, etc. We should have almost identical "static" numbers considering that we both have winches up front.

Hmmmm....

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Old 10-25-2004 | 12:04 PM
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So, you're at 25" sitting level in the Garage and 27.5" fully drooped? Something's not right there. I'm at 22.75" sitting level and 25.75 at almost full droop. Even giving my flares a half-inch, that would mean that you have almost 1.5 more inches of lift, and a half-inch less droop. We both have the same 1" RB BL, same top spacer, etc. We should have almost identical "static" numbers considering that we both have winches up front.

Hmmmm....
Your under estimateing how much your flares cover. The only way we can compare is for you to pull your flares and measure, which is impractical.

I know the crome trim rings lowered my measurements 1/2" so your big ol flares are going to be alot more than that.

Without the Revtek, I'm fine but don't enough lift.

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Old 10-25-2004 | 12:06 PM
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Ok, so you think my flares hang down TWO-INCHES below the fender... LOL, Ok, but let's throw that out for now...

I have over 3" of droop and you think you have problems w/ a whopping 2.75"?

Luuucccyyy, you gots some splainniinnnn' toooo dooooooo....

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Old 10-25-2004 | 12:36 PM
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Ok, so you think my flares hang down TWO-INCHES below the fender... LOL, Ok, but let's throw that out for now...

I have over 3" of droop and you think you have problems w/ a whopping 2.75"?

Luuucccyyy, you gots some splainniinnnn' toooo dooooooo....
Maybe you don't have as much lift as I do? I don't know? It goes down to the point were the ball joint hits the coil. Maybe the upper arms make this happen sooner?

I don't know.
Old 10-25-2004 | 01:09 PM
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So, anybody looking for some Double Cab Tundra coils yet?

These are NON TRD, but ask what the color pattern is to know if they are the same as the regular 4wd coils...

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...ad.php?t=31905
Old 10-25-2004 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sschaefer3
Maybe you don't have as much lift as I do? I don't know? It goes down to the point were the ball joint hits the coil. Maybe the upper arms make this happen sooner?

I don't know.
I'm getting the same measurements as Gapguy (he has chrome fender trim, but minus the winch and SC) so the lift should be the same for you since you have a 4cyl, bumper, and winch (winch offsets the weight loss of having 4cyl).

Gapguy measured w/in a 1/4" of me. He's using the same EXACT coils that you ordered. I'm just trying to figure out how you're getting ~2" more lift (based on measurements from the center of the hub, vertically, to the bottom of the fender)...

Me = 21.75" (corrected for 1" BL)
Gapguy = 22.00" (corrected for 2" BL)
You = 24.00" (corrected for 1" BL)
Old 10-25-2004 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bamachem
According to the measurements you gave me earlier and the pic you posted, you look like you're sitting level... Have things changed since then? You posted that your rear was 1/4" higher than the front, but you say it looks like a dragster? Why?
I'm going to re-measure as soon as I get back to a garage, but it *appears* that I now have a forward rake. Also, none of my CV boots are rubbing (yay). I'm also now getting a very small bit of rubbing while driving through dips. I'll trim, but I didn't have this before. My (apparently un-broken in) 891's are simply providing me more lift than your Downey coils. This lift now *seems* to provide less lift than my old 882's. Something inside tells me to go a little bit higher (.5"?) up front.
Old 10-25-2004 | 01:29 PM
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Just wanna get out and wheel this thing real-time..no more "in garage" numbers.

Another thought: Don't the VIN tags on the door jamb have front and rear weight specs? Lets compare....

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Old 10-25-2004 | 01:31 PM
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All I can tell you is that I have 2" of lift over (my truck 99) stock. I have always measured and I know where I started.
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If that's the case, you could put another spacer between the rubber gasket and the top plate and increase the lift by 0.5". However, that would mean breaking them down again. You could also install a "double" spacer on top without breaking them down, but then you have pushed the shock down and could possibly over copmress it or have over-extension problems w/ the CV angles.

Let me know if you need another spacer. They should be in later this week or first of next week.

I rub a touch on the street, but only on a 1/4-turn and only when hitting a gutter or somthing else to compress the leading wheel, but I haven't addressed the pinch-weld issue and I have a 1" BL instead of 2" like you do.

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Old 10-25-2004 | 03:20 PM
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If that's the case, you could put another spacer between the rubber gasket and the top plate and increase the lift by 0.5". However, that would mean breaking them down again. You could also install a "double" spacer on top without breaking them down, but then you have pushed the shock down and could possibly over copmress it or have over-extension problems w/ the CV angles.

Let me know if you need another spacer. They should be in later this week or first of next week.

I rub a touch on the street, but only on a 1/4-turn and only when hitting a gutter or somthing else to compress the leading wheel, but I haven't addressed the pinch-weld issue and I have a 1" BL instead of 2" like you do.
How much did you rub before you put the BL on? I'm considering running this setup with, eventually, 285's but I don't really want to put on a BL. Do you think the front tires will clear with minor trimming?

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