Mechanic's quote on cylinder misfire... what do you all think?
#41
erik,
youre in luck: i just finished a writeup on changing plugs
http://www.4runners.org/articles/sparkplugs
the driver's side plug near the firewall is a beotch. good luck w/ your big hands otherwise, a VERY simple job
bob
youre in luck: i just finished a writeup on changing plugs
http://www.4runners.org/articles/sparkplugs
the driver's side plug near the firewall is a beotch. good luck w/ your big hands otherwise, a VERY simple job
bob
#42
Electrolysis is not an issue with a spark plug since you need to ensure it makes good grounding contact (which the metalic antiseize compounds do) or you may have issues with your ignition system causing misfires.
.....all that being said, I don't use anything on my plugs but I change them about every 25-30k miles and have never had an issue.
.....all that being said, I don't use anything on my plugs but I change them about every 25-30k miles and have never had an issue.
That having been said, my experience is the same as yours, although I average 60k before a plug change since we stopped using leaded gas. Even then, they rarely need more than regapping.
#43
In theory, electrolyis is an issue between Al and Fe. Current flow would most definitely see resistance given the high voltage surge that must pass between the threads and the block despite the current being spread over a much larger surface area. Put it this way, Al is a prime ingredient in rocket fuel for a good reason. It is highly active.
That having been said, my experience is the same as yours, although I average 60k before a plug change since we stopped using leaded gas. Even then, they rarely need more than regapping.
That having been said, my experience is the same as yours, although I average 60k before a plug change since we stopped using leaded gas. Even then, they rarely need more than regapping.
I am definately familiar with powdered Al in rocket fuel....have a look at my profile on YT.
Last edited by MTL_4runner; 11-06-2006 at 07:14 PM.
#44
Jamie;
Be nice to know which engines have the inserts. Not only does it avoid the possibility we've been discussing, it is also less likely to suffer a cross-threaded start methinks.
Be nice to know which engines have the inserts. Not only does it avoid the possibility we've been discussing, it is also less likely to suffer a cross-threaded start methinks.
#46
Bosch Spark Plugs Suck
I just found out that I am going to have to drop $1600+ because one my Bosch Spark Plugs came loose and striped all the threads on my head. The mechanic is trying to tell me that is was because I didn't tighten the spark plug tight enough. I had changed these plugs out about a year ago, why in the hell would it take that long for them to come loose? He is worried that some of metal might have gotten into the lifter seat.
Has anyone heard of this happening? He wasn't able to check for compression, but would it be worth it to re-thread the head, put a spark plug in and check for compression without taking the whole head apart?
Has anyone heard of this happening? He wasn't able to check for compression, but would it be worth it to re-thread the head, put a spark plug in and check for compression without taking the whole head apart?
#48
This is the quote for a mis-fire on cylinder #3.
Plugs (Bosch) $59.70
Wire Set (Napa) $84.25
Tax $10.43
Labor $120.00
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Total $274.38
What do you think... should I do it? They won't let me bring my own parts (of course) since I can get them so much cheaper... but if I say no, I get hit with an $80 diagnostic charge... which will be waived if I do the service with them. I think if anything... if I do this, I should get to choose my plugs. Anyone out there have a recommendation for the BEST plugs for a 98 SR5 2WD? Anyone... help.
Plugs (Bosch) $59.70
Wire Set (Napa) $84.25
Tax $10.43
Labor $120.00
---------------------
Total $274.38
What do you think... should I do it? They won't let me bring my own parts (of course) since I can get them so much cheaper... but if I say no, I get hit with an $80 diagnostic charge... which will be waived if I do the service with them. I think if anything... if I do this, I should get to choose my plugs. Anyone out there have a recommendation for the BEST plugs for a 98 SR5 2WD? Anyone... help.
RIP, first off, Botched plugs are the worst. Get the ND or NGK's. Under $20 for all. Plug wires, forget aftermarket ones. They get creamy and come apart first time you try to remove it and ruin all AM reception. Get a set of OE wires for less money, yes, I said less! ANd they never come apart. We charge 1.0 for plugs and wires, that $90 on a 3.0 V6. Have a dealer do it, cheaper, higher quality parts too!
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