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Old 04-27-2006, 11:15 AM
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Two year Scion depreciation $2187
Two year Scion fuel savings $2860 (+673)

Two year 4Runner payments $5376
Two year Scion payments $5280 (+96)

4runner tires Revos $672
Scion tires Bridgestones $272 (+400)

4Runner oil change Amsoil $ 34
Scion oil change Amsoil $ 25 (+9)

In just these categories the Scion saves $1178. Do the calculations make sense to everyone??
Old 04-27-2006, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 4RunnerFever
Two year Scion depreciation $2187
Two year Scion fuel savings $2860 (+673)

Two year 4Runner payments $5376
Two year Scion payments $5280 (+96)

4runner tires Revos $672
Scion tires Bridgestones $272 (+400)

4Runner oil change Amsoil $ 34
Scion oil change Amsoil $ 25 (+9)

In just these categories the Scion saves $1178. Do the calculations make sense to everyone??
Where do you get your oil changes done? I take all of our cars to the local Toyota Stealership and pay $19.99 for whatever I bring, I miss the old days, when they first opened it was like $9 for OLF!
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Just a rough estimate on buying synthetic oil and filter.
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so those calculations....in 2 years youll save approx. 1200+ by selling the 4runner? what happens if you sell the supercharger and get back a good part of that? then youd only be saving several hundred; is it worth it?

edit: i realize gas savings would be in there too....but honestly man, the more i think about it, if you need to make a thread and youre still considering selling the 4runner, you should keep it. because it doesnt seem like the positives are good enough for you to already have said, you know what, financially this is the right thing to do, end of story. just my .04 now.

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Do you really have to buy a new vehicle. If you really want to save money then get a 3 to 4 year old car. You might be able to pay for it in cash with the money left over after paying off the runner.
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if it runs good, and looks as good as i think it does never sell it. i sold my 94 4runner and i want to cry everytime i see one. i regret that more than any car i ever sold.
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Originally Posted by justinh
I sure didn't get noticeably better fuel mileage with my manual hubs.
On my '91 4Runner I got about 1mpg. Every little bit helps.
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If you sold the supercharger, you can go back to running 87 oct. fuel and save $.20/gal.
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Scions are poorly built imo... My cousin had an xB and when I swapped out his suspension, his brake line popper out and fluid leaked... I was like wtf and quickly plugged it back on... I think they took some major cost cutting shortcuts on these things... Do clips cost that much to secure the freaking brake hose???

Oh yeah, I am willing to bet the Scion will depreciate alot more in two years than the figure you had.

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the scion isn't a done deal by any means and I'm looking at used cars etc. Running 33s without a supercharger doesn't sound fun at all
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The Honda Fit looks pretty good also.
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Originally Posted by 4RunnerFever
The Honda Fit looks pretty good also.
Again, just my opinion but if you're swapping your truck for a econobox, you will regret it big time. There is so much life left in the truck and with the s/c, I'm sure it's fun as hell to drive. I know gas costs a lot but if you really think about it, it's one of those expenses you have to live with.

I think you said your wife has a Tacoma, which makes it easier to get rid of the 4runner but with a family and having to lug stuff everywhere, the 4unner is a pretty good thing to have. Really think about it before you let it go as I'm sure you're doing now.
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Originally Posted by ebelen1
Again, just my opinion but if you're swapping your truck for a econobox, you will regret it big time. There is so much life left in the truck and with the s/c, I'm sure it's fun as hell to drive. I know gas costs a lot but if you really think about it, it's one of those expenses you have to live with.

I think you said your wife has a Tacoma, which makes it easier to get rid of the 4runner but with a family and having to lug stuff everywhere, the 4unner is a pretty good thing to have. Really think about it before you let it go as I'm sure you're doing now.
If thinking = agonizing, then I'm REALLY thinking about it hard. And yea, the S/C is fantastic. But the econobox at half the weight ain't bad either and the Scion we drove cornered much better. I wish I could keep the runner AND get an econobox.
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Originally Posted by 4RunnerFever
Keep the advice coming guys. The weather is really bad today, and they are working on our road so there is about 4 inches of gravel and mud everywhere. No problem in the 4Runner.

By way of information. I still owe about $8300 on the 4runner. If I owned it outright I wouldn't even think of selling. As it stands, the Scion will be a lower payment per month by about $40 and half the fuel cost. I'll end up saving over $100 a month.

But this is just the short term cost, because as many of you have noted, the depreciation on the Scion, interest charged on the loan, etc. etc. will probably not make this a purely economical decision.

One big issue is 4WD. We do live in a rural area, and it does snow about 50 inches a year here (sometimes more). So I'll get snow tires for the Scion (more costs )

I've also got a bit of SUV guilt . I know I'll regret selling the 4Runner, the question is can I deal with it.
Sell the 4runner. Take the $4,700 surplus and pay cash for a $4,000 used car. Use part of the $700 to take your wife to dinner and tell her how you have decided to live debt free. Use the rest of the $700 to start a new car fund. Then, work, save cash, and buy another 4runner when you have enough cash.
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Originally Posted by creekfisher
Sell the 4runner. Take the $4,700 surplus and pay cash for a $4,000 used car. Use part of the $700 to take your wife to dinner and tell her how you have decided to live debt free. Use the rest of the $700 to start a new car fund. Then, work, save cash, and buy another 4runner when you have enough cash.


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Originally Posted by garrett1478
sell the s/c and keep the 4runner. it's to darn good lookin' to sell.
Yeah.
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Originally Posted by Paul H.
How about parting out the supercharger, no more premium fuel, you will save at least 20 cents per gallon and could get about 1K for the piece on ebay.
Originally Posted by garrett1478
sell the s/c and keep the 4runner.
Originally Posted by 914runner
Sell the SC....You will be able to run 87 oct. fuel....
IMHO, the best advice has been said 3 times already (4 counting schaefer).
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Loose the Super Charger and all your problems will be solved.

When ever you move from a vehicle that is older and paid off to a new vehicle your going to loose money.

Also if you get in an accident, what would you rather have your kids in? Some tiny little cheap car or a 4Runner.

Our FJ62 sucks alot of gas, but it's alor cheaper to drive then a brand new FJ Crusier.
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Another vote for losing the S/C. I pulled mine off before the gas prices shot up last year and have not looked back.
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Originally Posted by sschaefer3
Loose the Super Charger and all your problems will be solved.

When ever you move from a vehicle that is older and paid off to a new vehicle your going to loose money.

Also if you get in an accident, what would you rather have your kids in? Some tiny little cheap car or a 4Runner.

Our FJ62 sucks alot of gas, but it's alor cheaper to drive then a brand new FJ Crusier.
Unfortunately, the 4Runner isn't paid off. If it were I'd keep it forever.
BTW - the Scion actually has a better crash test rating than the 4Runner.


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