Isn't a 2WD 4Runner an Oxymoron?
09-22-2003, 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by 4RUNR
Isn't the 4WD totally, completely and 100% defeated when in 2H mode?
Isn't the 4WD totally, completely and 100% defeated when in 2H mode?
09-22-2003, 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by mertztr
I choose 6, thanks Dave.
I choose 6, thanks Dave.
09-22-2003, 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by 4RUNR
When buying the 4Runner finding a 4cyl and 2WD was the preferred sensible choice. Both would of been more than sufficient, but then again, so would a Rav4 :pig:
When buying the 4Runner finding a 4cyl and 2WD was the preferred sensible choice. Both would of been more than sufficient, but then again, so would a Rav4 :pig:
now that the runner is mine, i may wish it were 4x4, but what am i going to do about it now? not much, but everything i have done to increase its trail performance has been 100% worth while in my opinion. so if you want to call my 4runner a 2Runner, thats fine, but at least its a TRUE 2Runner. a stock 4x4, could also be considered a 2runner if it has no lockers.
this thread just kinda seems to try and make those with 2WD feel crappy.
thus, option 6 is what i choose
-Casey
09-22-2003, 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by casey
now that the runner is mine, i may wish it were 4x4, but what am i going to do about it now?
now that the runner is mine, i may wish it were 4x4, but what am i going to do about it now?
09-22-2003, 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by 44Runner
Funny you should ask. I have a good idea or two...
Funny you should ask. I have a good idea or two...
in another post i commented to you on how when i am out of college and have another DD, im going to SAS my truck
-Casey
09-22-2003, 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by casey
funny you should reply to that...
in another post i commented to you on how when i am out of college and have another DD, im going to SAS my truck
-Casey
funny you should reply to that...
in another post i commented to you on how when i am out of college and have another DD, im going to SAS my truck
-Casey
09-22-2003, 03:11 PM
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The only off-roading I do out here in so cal is in the open desert. When you're doing 70+ mph, it really doesn't matter whether or not you have 4wd. Most of the SCORE trucks that run the off-road desert races are 2wd. Some are 4wd, but that's just more parts to break.
09-22-2003, 03:11 PM
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this thread just kinda seems to try and make those with 2WD feel crappy.
You can lift it.
You can upgrade the shocks.
you can upgrade the tires.
you can do the ISR mod.
you can put a locker on it.
you can upgrade the stereo
You Hard Core 4WD'rs may call it an "Oxymoron" or even a "Moral Contradiction" but You know what ......
A 2WD Runner is a Runner and a Potential Modders"Money Sink" just like the 4WD Runner....LOL
And it's still a better vehicle than most other brand's 4WDs are - On or Off-Road.
It's a Runner so who cares...
09-22-2003, 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by ALBPM
Whoa!!!!!!
You can lift it.
You can upgrade the shocks.
you can upgrade the tires.
you can do the ISR mod.
you can put a locker on it.
you can upgrade the stereo
You Hard Core 4WD'rs may call it an "Oxymoron" or even a "Moral Contradiction" but You know what ......
A 2WD Runner is a Runner and a Potential Modders"Money Sink" just like the 4WD Runner....LOL
And it's still a better vehicle than most other brand's 4WDs are - On or Off-Road.
It's a Runner so who cares...
Whoa!!!!!!
You can lift it.
You can upgrade the shocks.
you can upgrade the tires.
you can do the ISR mod.
you can put a locker on it.
you can upgrade the stereo
You Hard Core 4WD'rs may call it an "Oxymoron" or even a "Moral Contradiction" but You know what ......
A 2WD Runner is a Runner and a Potential Modders"Money Sink" just like the 4WD Runner....LOL
And it's still a better vehicle than most other brand's 4WDs are - On or Off-Road.
It's a Runner so who cares...
I wouldnt take back one of those mods i have done
good call on the "money sink"
and it sure is a much better vehicle than some other 4WDs out there!
-Casey
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09-23-2003, 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by <96 Runner>
I totally disagree with whoever said that. Anyone crazy enough to attempt steep declines without true "4LO" is just asking to roll.
And going up a steep hill? I hope they have a SC...cause you are gonna have to rap that thing out around 3600 to get going.
Flame on people, but a 2WD w/locker aint gonna touch a 4WD without.
(No offense Peter!)
I totally disagree with whoever said that. Anyone crazy enough to attempt steep declines without true "4LO" is just asking to roll.
And going up a steep hill? I hope they have a SC...cause you are gonna have to rap that thing out around 3600 to get going.
Flame on people, but a 2WD w/locker aint gonna touch a 4WD without.
(No offense Peter!)
Bwahahahahahah! :cry:
Well, s'okay. I think I like the sand more than the rocks anyway
As far as my choice -
#6 all the way.
My truck is 2WD and I take as much pride in the work I personally do on it as much as any of you fellas with the 4WD.
09-23-2003, 06:24 AM
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Re: Want an oxymoron?
Originally posted by waskillywabbit
I would suggest that the only oxymoron present in this thread is the name of its author....
FORE RUNNER...
you figure it out!
Brian
I would suggest that the only oxymoron present in this thread is the name of its author....
FORE RUNNER...
you figure it out!
Brian
I wasn't even paying attention to that........If he isn't a golf player, that is really sad........but funny.
I saw Scott yesterday out at the track. We talked about you for a little bit......all good of course.
09-23-2003, 06:50 AM
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I am going to see what dirt he has on you......
I am not sure if I am going to make it to the wedding. We are supposed to take my mother to New Orleans that weekend.
If you change your mind and come out to the race this weekend, get my number from Scott. We will be staying in the Paddock are behind the garages and will have plenty of food and .........refreshments.
I am not sure if I am going to make it to the wedding. We are supposed to take my mother to New Orleans that weekend.
If you change your mind and come out to the race this weekend, get my number from Scott. We will be staying in the Paddock are behind the garages and will have plenty of food and .........refreshments.
09-23-2003, 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by 44Runner
Nope. You are still spinning the CVs and axles and parts of the diff, in addition to lugging around a ton of extra weight...
Nope. You are still spinning the CVs and axles and parts of the diff, in addition to lugging around a ton of extra weight...
09-23-2003, 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by Toyo22R-E
In 2 Hi you are not spinning the front drive shaft, CV axles or the front diff. That would only happen if you locked in the manual hubs (if so equipped) and drove in 2 Hi. There is, however the added weight (not a ton, but considerable amount).
In 2 Hi you are not spinning the front drive shaft, CV axles or the front diff. That would only happen if you locked in the manual hubs (if so equipped) and drove in 2 Hi. There is, however the added weight (not a ton, but considerable amount).
09-23-2003, 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by mertztr
3rd gens do not have manual hubs unless you buy the kit. They have ADD, and yes the front does spin when disconnected.
3rd gens do not have manual hubs unless you buy the kit. They have ADD, and yes the front does spin when disconnected.
09-23-2003, 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by Churnd
I say 6 too.
Throw a locker in the back and it'll keep up with your 4WD. You know it will. I'm not biased. I drive a 4WD truck.
I say 6 too.
Throw a locker in the back and it'll keep up with your 4WD. You know it will.
I'm not biased. I drive a 4WD truck.
2wd + locker + snow = donuts
But that's just a yankee's point of view. I wouldn't mind a 2wd 4Runner if I lived down south. I would prefer 4wd but at least I'd have a 4Runner.
BTW, Option 6 sounds about right
