How is handling with 235/85/16's on 3rd gen 4runner???
#1
How is handling with 235/85/16's on 3rd gen 4runner???
I am in search of some people who have useful input on this tire size on their 4x4 3rd gen or even 2nd gen 4runners and how the handleing is. Specifically mud terrain tires in this configuration.
Main concerns
Turning and cornering mainly, low speed? moderate speed? high speed?
Does this thin of a tire make everything drasticly worse...I know the 2wd 4runners came with 225's so I am guess tread wear would be slightly faster than the OEM 265's on 4x4 models like mine.
Lesser but still important concerns:
Tread wear with tire that is 30mm thinner?
ride difference?
Braking?
Maybe any other info you can offer would be great!!
Main concerns
Turning and cornering mainly, low speed? moderate speed? high speed?
Does this thin of a tire make everything drasticly worse...I know the 2wd 4runners came with 225's so I am guess tread wear would be slightly faster than the OEM 265's on 4x4 models like mine.
Lesser but still important concerns:
Tread wear with tire that is 30mm thinner?
ride difference?
Braking?
Maybe any other info you can offer would be great!!
Last edited by 22R-to-5VZFE; 10-01-2008 at 07:04 PM.
#3
I ran them on my range rover before i sold it. They were great and fine for me.
Everything seemed the same minus the slugging due to them being 32's and stock was 28's.
they are just a thinner 265/75/16
Everything seemed the same minus the slugging due to them being 32's and stock was 28's.
they are just a thinner 265/75/16
#4
thats what i run. they work great for me i get the 32" tire but without the big fat footprint. also on the bfg m/t it has the deeper tread for that size.
no problems on highway or on dirt roads. i think the E rating you can run up to 80psi but i run about 32 or so on highway and about 23 on dirt.
but you are reminded that they are a skinny tire in deep snow.
no problems on highway or on dirt roads. i think the E rating you can run up to 80psi but i run about 32 or so on highway and about 23 on dirt.
but you are reminded that they are a skinny tire in deep snow.
#6
Hmm okay well I may have to try them out...I am looking for the new Km2's in that size so I am going to go to discountire and see if they have them in yet...
Anyone else with helpful input??
Thanks guys for you help...
Anyone else with helpful input??
Thanks guys for you help...
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#8
I have tried researching adding clearance but all I have found is wheel spacers, some kind of top spacer for 1" lift and 99 springs that give an extra 1" lift...
Can I use my oem shocks with the 99 springs?? would 99 springs and like say 10mm wheelspacers get me to 255/85/16's with no rubbing??
If no, what would be needed??
Can I use my oem shocks with the 99 springs?? would 99 springs and like say 10mm wheelspacers get me to 255/85/16's with no rubbing??
If no, what would be needed??
#9
going back to the 235s for a minute. I ran them on my old 86 runner for about 30000 miles and they still looked almost new. As far as how they handled. They were fine. I never noticed anything sketchy on the highway or gravel or mud or snow. The only major thing was that my tired old 22re could barely keep up before going to the tall tire and the extra height did not seem to add any horsepower. I won't comment on fittment because the first gens and third gens are not particularly comparable in that area.
#10
You can use your oem shocks with 99 spinrgs, I am running 2" front and 3" rear and i rubbed on one place in the front, and if i flexed all the way in the rear i would rub. But if our pound down your pinch weld and trim your rear mud flap area you can run them.
#11
I ordered a set of 235/85 16 Cooper Discoverer M+S's (studded) for this winter season. I should have them on by the end of the month. They're not exactly the type of tire you're looking for info on but I'll keep you posted on how they handle anyway.
#15
Quote from Expedition Portal:
Correct about the rubber content having to do with BFG not recommending the E tire for severe snow. Not they don't work in snow, but that there is a measurable difference in tire response in cold weather with cryophilic rubber compounds. Winter blend rubber compound also tends not to wear as well in summer and on abrasive roads as a rule, but so far I have had very good service from D rated BFG AT's in the same size as you are contemplating, and I could not say that they are wearing any faster due to the dual compound rubber. Driving on these tires so far includes a loaded trip down the Alcan in spring weather (no snow dry roads), so they have around 8,000 or 10,000 miles and you can still see the molding tits on the tread blocks.
Correct about the rubber content having to do with BFG not recommending the E tire for severe snow. Not they don't work in snow, but that there is a measurable difference in tire response in cold weather with cryophilic rubber compounds. Winter blend rubber compound also tends not to wear as well in summer and on abrasive roads as a rule, but so far I have had very good service from D rated BFG AT's in the same size as you are contemplating, and I could not say that they are wearing any faster due to the dual compound rubber. Driving on these tires so far includes a loaded trip down the Alcan in spring weather (no snow dry roads), so they have around 8,000 or 10,000 miles and you can still see the molding tits on the tread blocks.
Last edited by Matt16; 12-18-2008 at 12:11 AM.
#18
Well I got my 235's on now and my first impression with them is that they make my rig's on road handling noticeably more vague. Keep in mind that I'm comparing them to my larger and wider 285 Revo's. The 235 Discoverer M+S's tread is very soft with very deep channels and a ton of sipes thoughout so it's no wonder that they seem to be a bit squirmy. The handling didn't seem to change much with the pressure at 55psi or at 35psi where I have them at now either. Again, this is a winter tire that's designed to be subjected to a completely different environment than an A/T tires design so keep this info in mind.
I'll admit that this skinny of a tire looks kind of funny as opposed to the larger 285 Revo's. I'll try to post a pic or two tomorrow.
I'll admit that this skinny of a tire looks kind of funny as opposed to the larger 285 Revo's. I'll try to post a pic or two tomorrow.
#20
They probably would look better on a 6" wide rim verses your 7" wide ones. With as much lift as you have it's hard to see that those tires are actually 32" tall!
I think you will like them over all for the winter. I'm surprised you didn't go with 33x9.50 BFG ATs instead.
I think you will like them over all for the winter. I'm surprised you didn't go with 33x9.50 BFG ATs instead.