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Old 09-27-2004 | 06:55 PM
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High flow cats.

Ok im in california.

Check this out, I got 2 cats under my runner its a 00. My 98 4cyl only had 1. Since i ordered a high flow cat originally for the old runner.

Im planning to yank off both of them. ANd just bolt on a high flow cat. You think ill still be able to pass smog? Cuz man these 4runners have potential!
Old 09-27-2004 | 06:59 PM
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As long as you are at operating temp, you should pass smog. The first cat is to reduce cold start emissions. Personally, I really do not think you are going to see as big of a HP gain as you might imagine.

Keep in mind that tampering with working emission control devices is a federal offense...so you might have a hard time finding a welder for it.

Mod away though.

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Old 09-27-2004 | 07:37 PM
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Keep in mind that tampering with working emission control devices is a federal offense...so you might have a hard time finding a welder for it.
I thought it didn't matter as long as the vehicle has over 50K or 55K miles (can't remember which). I replaced my OEM cat that was working fine but I had 130K miles at the time.

Old 09-27-2004 | 08:00 PM
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there is a lot of legal stuff that most muffler shops wotn even touch.... i think only a state approved place can even touch cats now adays... the local muffler shop i go to has a sign that says dont even ask us to touch the cat, unless you feel like paying the $2500 fine....
Old 09-27-2004 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AgRunner06
I thought it didn't matter as long as the vehicle has over 50K or 55K miles (can't remember which). I replaced my OEM cat that was working fine but I had 130K miles at the time.

I have read the legal notice regarding cats posted inside most major muffler chains, and it is pretty specific about not tampering with a working device. I read this notice many years ago, so the rules may have changed slightly, but I doubt it. Let me know if you find anything out.

I guess if you took a hammer and ruined the stock cat a muffler shop would weld on the new high flow cat.

But you know, in this case I think it would be a crime to remove one of two cats. But, don't quote me on that. That is a very good question.
Old 09-27-2004 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by <96 Runner>
I have read the legal notice regarding cats posted inside most major muffler chains, and it is pretty specific about not tampering with a working device. I read this notice many years ago, so the rules may have changed slightly, but I doubt it. Let me know if you find anything out.

I guess if you took a hammer and ruined the stock cat a muffler shop would weld on the new high flow cat.

But you know, in this case I think it would be a crime to remove one of two cats. But, don't quote me on that. That is a very good question.
Yeah. It boggles me but its not fair to put 2 of them on a 4runner.
Old 09-27-2004 | 11:26 PM
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I have heard of guys who will have their cat's on for "smog" (up here in British Columbia Canada we call it "Air Care" - I prefer to call it "Cash Cow") and then remove them for performance, and then reweld them back in for smog. With what is essentially a new cat they pass pretty much everytime supposedly (although there are other reasons you could fail too- I said just about).
Old 09-28-2004 | 06:24 AM
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A buddy on mine with a M3 removed his cat and replaced it with a straight pipe. Gained 15 rwhp! The 4Runner is no M3, but it made a huge difference on his.
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