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Old 10-18-2015 | 05:05 PM
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Front Brakes on 98 Tacoma Questions

Yeah, this is pretty basic stuff...

I'm doing this job tomorrow, and just want to have some questions answered before I run into problems.

The Chilton manual talks about two anti-squeal shims on each pad. Every youtube video I watch just shows a guy pulling out the old pads and sliding in the new ones. Am I going to have a pad plus two pad shims on either side of each rotor, or not?

Also, my OEM front pads came with 4 metal plates with tabs on them. Are these wear indicators? It's another thing I don't see anything about in any video.

IF the pads I pull out of the truck are OEM, I'm sure I'll be able to see how it all fits together and what I need and don't need. But I'm worried someone put aftermarket pads on at some point and so I'll be clueless as to how it all goes together.

I also can't decide, after reading a ton of posts, whether to open a bleeder valve or do any of that stuff. Again, videos on youtube just show a guy compressing the calipers and sliding in the new pads without doing anything else.

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Old 10-18-2015 | 05:08 PM
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Old 10-18-2015 | 07:52 PM
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Those 4 plates are the shims. Wear indicator are built into the pads.

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I have a neat little tool for pressing the caliper pistons back in if the reservoir is full it will push brake fluid out.

If you open a bleeder then you have to do the whole bleeding operation .

Your lucky here the pins get so rusty they are a pain to get out

I was looking Yesterday I may need to replace them and the pads are still in great shape.
Old 10-19-2015 | 05:03 AM
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Ok, thanks. So the shims go in with the pads? Or are they somehow optional? Hopefully when I look at the old ones, it'll be obvious. They definitely don't look anything like what the Chilton manual shows, and it talks about a couple different shims of different colors (black and silver, anyways).

Also, can you see the photo in my second post? I'm just recently using my ipad to take photos and upload them directly into the post. Sounds like they might not be showing up...
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The pads come with their own shims that will match the pads. It'll be obvious where/how they go.
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Well, the old ones weren't exactly like the new ones so I had to guess a bit, but it seems like I did it right.

The old pads had two anti-squeal shims. The inner ship was "vented", outer wasn't. The Toyota shims weren't vented. I used the Toyota shims in place of the inner, vented shims, and re-used the old outer shims.

Anyone see anything wrong with that? Should I have re-used the inner, vented shims and used the ones that came with my new pads to replace the outer shims?
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a pair of anti-squeal shims normally comes with one shim plain and the other slotted
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Yeah...looking at all the diagrams online, the inner is always slotted, outer is plain. So I guess I did it backwards. The shims that came with my pads were the outers, and I was suposed to re-use the inners.

Well...I guess I'll go back in and do it again.

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Well, whether it matters or not, I went back in, put the slotted shims in between the pads and the non-slotted shims that came with my new pads. Whether it makes any difference, at least I can drive around knowing I did it "right".

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What is interesting is since I bought my Tacoma with 125,000 the original pads had been replaced .

Mine never had any shims so when I got new pads they never got put back on that was close to 75,000 miles ago .
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Yeah I sort of figured it probably didn't matter. But since I had all the stuff still, and it's a pretty easy job (once you know how to do it), I thought why not go back in and "fix" it.
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