Differential gear oil question
#21
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/index.sh...ntheticGearOil
#23
I agree that a heavier oil is better for MOST offroad applications.
NOT for ARB differentials.
I have been running conventional 75w90 in my ARB'd diffs with ZERO issues. So have several others I know.
TC has been running the readline heavy weight stuff, in both of his ARB'd diffs, and it has ruined several sets of o rings in the rear, AND jammed up his front locker, which we just finished fixing.
We pulled the front locker completely apart, and found redline in EVERYTHING. It had gotten in and jammed the pressure plate that actuates the locker.
Simple cleaning of the locker fixed the problem.
I will not run anything heavier than 75w-90 after seeing that.
In an auto locker situation, the redline stuff would be PERFECT, as it would really help with noise, and overall diff care.
NOT for ARB differentials.
I have been running conventional 75w90 in my ARB'd diffs with ZERO issues. So have several others I know.
TC has been running the readline heavy weight stuff, in both of his ARB'd diffs, and it has ruined several sets of o rings in the rear, AND jammed up his front locker, which we just finished fixing.
We pulled the front locker completely apart, and found redline in EVERYTHING. It had gotten in and jammed the pressure plate that actuates the locker.
Simple cleaning of the locker fixed the problem.
I will not run anything heavier than 75w-90 after seeing that.
In an auto locker situation, the redline stuff would be PERFECT, as it would really help with noise, and overall diff care.
#24
I like the Redline Heavy Weight shockproof gear oil, it has a 75W250 rating and really clings to gears:
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/index.sh...ntheticGearOil
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/index.sh...ntheticGearOil
#25
I've had RL Heavy Shockproof in my front and rear ARBs since I first got them about 9 years ago. No problems at all, they still lock and unlock fine. These are the older/original design units, maybe the newer design might be different.
#26
Is the fuel economy drop I will experience with 80W140 likely to be noticeable? Redline Oil's website says I will likely experience a 0.5% decrease (which won't be "noticeable"). Anyone have any experience with this?
Last edited by Matt16; 05-13-2008 at 10:56 AM.
#28
you said it was a 250wt, to me thats way way too heavy and thick.. i can see how he had issues. 140wt is perfect for most of these guys who live down south and or tow, or wheel alot.. 140wt in synthetic would even be better for cold temp protection.
i am going to mix 50/50 75w90 and 75w140 amsoil severe gear. that will get me close to the 75w110 thats highly recommended. i dont wheel often at all but i do pull a 21ft bass boat and camper (not at the same time of course) quite often
#30
#36
#37
Check this out then.
https://www.amsoil.com/products/gear...hitePaper.aspx
https://www.amsoil.com/products/gear...hitePaper.aspx
I think you need a PhD to figure out the results. It sure looks like some excel in some tests and don't do so good in others.
#38
And the study was commissioned by Amsoil, which makes the whole thing pretty suspect, IMO. A key tenet of scientific research, say in medicine, is to ensure that those who commission and conduct the study do not have any inherent conflicts of interest. That was certainly not the case here.
#39
Amsoil submitted the oil to an indepenent lab to be tested with all others, if they fail they fail .
The easiest way to see if any of your oil is performing as it should is to send it in for a UOA. Very few people do it tho they just look at it or feel it and think its ok, or go on hearsay and big money marketing and commercials. I have my oil tested and Amsoil is works for me and has for years thats why i became a dealer plus i get it cheaper. If i didnt i would run something else and test it till i found one that works. From what i have found people love it or hate it or just dont know about Amsoil. Im just trying to help people get it on here at cost so they dont pay full price for it.
The easiest way to see if any of your oil is performing as it should is to send it in for a UOA. Very few people do it tho they just look at it or feel it and think its ok, or go on hearsay and big money marketing and commercials. I have my oil tested and Amsoil is works for me and has for years thats why i became a dealer plus i get it cheaper. If i didnt i would run something else and test it till i found one that works. From what i have found people love it or hate it or just dont know about Amsoil. Im just trying to help people get it on here at cost so they dont pay full price for it.
Last edited by dbcx; 11-15-2008 at 09:50 AM.
#40
Lucas heavy duty 85w-140
East coast gear supply highly recommended running Lucas 85w-140 during and after break-in of their new/rebuilt differentials. I commonly was getting combined 20-23mpg running synthetic
80w-90. After switching to the 85w-140 when replacing new diff and replacing axle bearings/seals, I have not since seen 21 mpg. I am switching back to a synthetic 80w-90. I run Redline MT-90 in the tranny but intend to run valvoline syn power in the rear, as that was what I had prior to replacing axle bearings. Anyone else run Valvoline gear oil in the rear/front diffs?
Endless head scratching with this truck.
80w-90. After switching to the 85w-140 when replacing new diff and replacing axle bearings/seals, I have not since seen 21 mpg. I am switching back to a synthetic 80w-90. I run Redline MT-90 in the tranny but intend to run valvoline syn power in the rear, as that was what I had prior to replacing axle bearings. Anyone else run Valvoline gear oil in the rear/front diffs?
Endless head scratching with this truck.