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Old 10-12-2016, 11:08 AM
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Check engine light

I have a 99 Toyota 4Runner 2.7 liter and the check engine is on I have it checked out and it reads insufficient air flow so I change the EGR valve which was recommended and the one next to the EGR valve as well after resetting the check engine light after a few days it turns back on in it reads the samw code i check all vaccumm hoses everything is fine and connected right what can it be please help the car runs fine the only thing I noticed it waste a little bit more gas than usual any input would be highly appreciated thank you
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What does the air filter look like??

It would be the first thing I checked

Did this sit for some time ??

Rodent nest in the intake or throttle body
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Originally Posted by wyoming9
What does the air filter look like??

It would be the first thing I checked

Did this sit for some time ??

Rodent nest in the intake or throttle body
No nothing like that at all its daily driven and very well maintained just trying to figure why does this keep happening
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Just what code are you getting ??

Remember it can be that whole sensor circuit .

I see now you should be getting a PO401

What ever you changed did not fix the problen

Any rubbed or broken wires

Had you found your EGR valve defective or just changed it

The EGR temp sensor is that what you replaced ??

For what ever reason the EGR valve seems not to be opening when it should

One of those things each part of the EGR systems needs to be tested

Might even be The ECM causing the problem

This is why the FSM is nice

Corroded connections

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Before you start digging into it try cleaning your Mass Air Flow sensor with a MAF safe cleaner. Maybe try cleaning the throttle body too.
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Originally Posted by wyoming9
Just what code are you getting ??

Remember it can be that whole sensor circuit .
P0401 it's running just fine but it is wasting more gas than usual and the light is annoying n it has a new egr valve and the one next to it as well is new
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Originally Posted by wyoming9
Just what code are you getting ??

Remember it can be that whole sensor circuit .
Originally Posted by TacoTank
Before you start digging into it try cleaning your Mass Air Flow sensor with a MAF safe cleaner. Maybe try cleaning the throttle body too.
I already cleaned both of those and nothing
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Originally Posted by La Clon Towing
I already cleaned both of those and nothing
Hmm... as wyoming9 said it could be sensor related. I have two O2 sensors on my exhaust, if one doesn't read right it can effect your engine performance and how well it runs. Maybe inspect those for any wear or damage?
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Originally Posted by wyoming9
Just what code are you getting ??

Remember it can be that whole sensor circuit .

I see now you should be getting a PO401

What ever you changed did not fix the problen

Any rubbed or broken wires

Had you found your EGR valve defective or just changed it

The EGR temp sensor is that what you replaced ??

For what ever reason the EGR valve seems not to be opening when it should

One of those things each part of the EGR systems needs to be tested

Might even be The ECM causing the problem

This is why the FSM is nice

Corroded connections
Originally Posted by TacoTank
Hmm... as wyoming9 said it could be sensor related. I have two O2 sensors on my exhaust, if one doesn't read right it can effect your engine performance and how well it runs. Maybe inspect those for any wear or damage?
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like i said it runs just fine only thing is it waste more gas then it did before this happened and they put it on a scanner n it read insufficient gas flow
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My only other suggestions would be to run some cleaner like startron or seafoam and see if that helps. Could be a result of carbon buildup.
Is the MAF plugged in tightly?
Also, double check on the O2 sensors. If anything screws with them wether it be wear and tear or removing the cat, it will send signals to the ECU that can do anything from reducing efficiency to sending it into a total limp mode.
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Originally Posted by TacoTank
My only other suggestions would be to run some cleaner like startron or seafoam and see if that helps. Could be a result of carbon buildup.
Is the MAF plugged in tightly?
Also, double check on the O2 sensors. If anything screws with them wether it be wear and tear or removing the cat, it will send signals to the ECU that can do anything from reducing efficiency to sending it into a total limp mode.
I used the sefoam I use the method removing the pcv hose and let suck in I tought it worked but a few days later the light came back on do you think it would work better if I use seafoam this time from the hose that connects to the brake booster to the intake? Maf all secured and I don't see any wear n tear on O2 sensors I wish I can find a Toyo tech on the side here in Florida looks like imna have to bring it to another mechanic
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Originally Posted by La Clon Towing
I used the sefoam I use the method removing the pcv hose and let suck in I tought it worked but a few days later the light came back on do you think it would work better if I use seafoam this time from the hose that connects to the brake booster to the intake? Maf all secured and I don't see any wear n tear on O2 sensors I wish I can find a Toyo tech on the side here in Florida looks like imna have to bring it to another mechanic
That is a vacuum line and I know that's a common location to do it. Have I done it? No, have not needed to yet. It's worth a try though, if you dont use all of it throw the rest in the gas tank.
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