Belt Whine Issue
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I've had the same problem ever since I did some water forging, i'm going to try and tension the belts a little more. The belts were just replaced about a year ago so I'm guessing it can't be them....I've been following your posts and have found some good ideas.
The difference with mine is that it can only be heard at higher rpms....when its idle its totally fine. So again, i'm hoping mine is just a loose belt. If it was a bearing how would i know and is it a hard fix?
The difference with mine is that it can only be heard at higher rpms....when its idle its totally fine. So again, i'm hoping mine is just a loose belt. If it was a bearing how would i know and is it a hard fix?
My belts were replaced a year ago when I bought it, when they did the timing chain the changed the belts so...
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Do you have a haynes manual on it? I know it says in there, its hard to explain and I don't have the means to take a picture right now. Its basically a silver metal piece with a nut on top, almost looks like a clamp that you would use to hold down a piece of wood or something. I believe there should be one in various forms for each belt.
You had your chain replaced? You have the 3.4 right? I have the 2.7, and haven't heard of anyone having to replace their chain!
You had your chain replaced? You have the 3.4 right? I have the 2.7, and haven't heard of anyone having to replace their chain!
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I have the 3.4L
IIRC it mandatory for the earlier 3rd gens (96-98) to have the timing chain changed at 60K?
What is the power like in with the 2.7 in the 4Runner? What kinda Gas mileage do you get?
IIRC it mandatory for the earlier 3rd gens (96-98) to have the timing chain changed at 60K?
What is the power like in with the 2.7 in the 4Runner? What kinda Gas mileage do you get?
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As far as I know, the chain doesn't ever have to be changed unless its making noise or something like that.
The 2.7 is not bad at all, gets a bit sluggish in 4hi and at highway speeds but basic wheeling and running around town, it gets the job done nicely. I get about 18mpg on average, i'm not complaining.
The 2.7 is not bad at all, gets a bit sluggish in 4hi and at highway speeds but basic wheeling and running around town, it gets the job done nicely. I get about 18mpg on average, i'm not complaining.
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Well
I think I may have got the whine issued figured out thanks to
CJM and 91TPU.
My power steering pump I believe is going.
The sound is so much more pronounced now then ever when I steer.
Also somewhere around 1500-2000 RPM i feel a vibration com through the steering wheel.
So I guess suggestions.
Prices.
and Can I do this job myself?
How hard is it to do?
I think I may have got the whine issued figured out thanks to
CJM and 91TPU.
My power steering pump I believe is going.
The sound is so much more pronounced now then ever when I steer.
Also somewhere around 1500-2000 RPM i feel a vibration com through the steering wheel.
So I guess suggestions.
Prices.
and Can I do this job myself?
How hard is it to do?
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Power steering pump shouldnt be that bad of a job for ya! I havent done one on a 3rd, but I've done a few on a 1st and several other makes.... Its a little messy, but not too bad. Dunno bout prices, just check with your local parts store. Difficulty wise shouldnt be too bad. IIR I'll go check out my 98 and see how hard it would be to get out. Should just be undo the belt, take off the lines (mess), then unbolt the pump and swap.
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Well
I think I may have got the whine issued figured out thanks to
CJM and 91TPU.
My power steering pump I believe is going.
The sound is so much more pronounced now then ever when I steer.
Also somewhere around 1500-2000 RPM i feel a vibration com through the steering wheel.
So I guess suggestions.
Prices.
and Can I do this job myself?
How hard is it to do?
I think I may have got the whine issued figured out thanks to
CJM and 91TPU.
My power steering pump I believe is going.
The sound is so much more pronounced now then ever when I steer.
Also somewhere around 1500-2000 RPM i feel a vibration com through the steering wheel.
So I guess suggestions.
Prices.
and Can I do this job myself?
How hard is it to do?
this is what came up on advance auto parts website
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductL...+Steering+Pump
have any other issues with the rig after you got back?
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sounds like a pulley bearing going, that would be caused by deep water, water likes to eat bearings, they go on our kw's at work all the time, see if someone you can put the pump on an alternator tester, or some other kind of bench where you can spin it really fast and see if it is that, wouldn't want you to waste all that money. i was also wondering if your fan is stuck on, perchance, could be mud in the fan clutch making it stick.
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that sucks about the pump man...but i think its something you should be able to do in the driveway... and you should be able to nab on for a couple hundred bucks and then get some back for the core charge...
this is what came up on advance auto parts website
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductL...+Steering+Pump
have any other issues with the rig after you got back?
this is what came up on advance auto parts website
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductL...+Steering+Pump
have any other issues with the rig after you got back?
Just that whine is getting worse.
Also I noticed that it almost sounds like it is making a gurgling noise from where the power steering pump is..
sounds like a pulley bearing going, that would be caused by deep water, water likes to eat bearings, they go on our kw's at work all the time, see if someone you can put the pump on an alternator tester, or some other kind of bench where you can spin it really fast and see if it is that, wouldn't want you to waste all that money. i was also wondering if your fan is stuck on, perchance, could be mud in the fan clutch making it stick.
I would think that would cause a horsepower change or a lot of wind noise if it was stuck on.
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as far as the gurgling noise goes, can you get air in the power steering system? maybe that would be the cause of your whining issue, idk if it is possible, but if it is maybe it is that...
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Maybe it is air i don't know, the reservoir is full though.
Oh and side note, i will be getting the pics from Dave tomorrow to post up.
Oh and side note, i will be getting the pics from Dave tomorrow to post up.
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New Update.
I will be taking her in soon because
1) Mom is sick and tired or hearing the whine in the morning
2) There are more issues arising.
I think I have more then just a whine issue now...
I am starting to feel a vibration in the power steering when I turn.
And a very nasty noise.
Kind of hard to explain.
But I crawled under the truck while it was running and turned the steering rod to see if i notice and there is def a noise of such coming and maybe a little grinding?
I notice there was a slight leak right at the top where the steering rod goed into the steering gear box.
(I believe I got that damage from my Jan 13th Trip...)
Is it possible that water has made itself present in my steering system?
If so, How hard would it be to flush and bleed the steering system myself?
I will post again when i get the diagnosis (cause that all mom wants to know, it seems she want the mechanic to find out what the problem is, then tell me, and I will proceed to order the parts for the repair)
I just wanted to get an idea of what you all think, and if anyone else has experience a similar issue.
I will be taking her in soon because
1) Mom is sick and tired or hearing the whine in the morning
2) There are more issues arising.
I think I have more then just a whine issue now...
I am starting to feel a vibration in the power steering when I turn.
And a very nasty noise.
Kind of hard to explain.
But I crawled under the truck while it was running and turned the steering rod to see if i notice and there is def a noise of such coming and maybe a little grinding?
I notice there was a slight leak right at the top where the steering rod goed into the steering gear box.
(I believe I got that damage from my Jan 13th Trip...)
Is it possible that water has made itself present in my steering system?
If so, How hard would it be to flush and bleed the steering system myself?
I will post again when i get the diagnosis (cause that all mom wants to know, it seems she want the mechanic to find out what the problem is, then tell me, and I will proceed to order the parts for the repair)
I just wanted to get an idea of what you all think, and if anyone else has experience a similar issue.
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I read through this and I didn't see this suggestion. Have you totally ruled out belts noise? To do this, with the engine running drip a drop or two of water on each and see if that silences it or changes it....don't get water on anything else. I would rule that out first.
Toyota belts have a coating on them (felt like) that makes them quiet. Over time this wears off and they will start to get noisy. They are still fine, but they will drive you nuts. I have a real good Toyota mechanic who showed this to me on my 2000 4runner. Two days later I heard a Landcruiser making the same noise mine was. My Grandmother has a Camry that just started doing the same thing last week. My mechanic had me wait to change the belts until my timing belt was due, unfortunately my water pump started leaking before the timing chain was due.
When mine did it, I too thought the alternator was failing.
Toyota belts have a coating on them (felt like) that makes them quiet. Over time this wears off and they will start to get noisy. They are still fine, but they will drive you nuts. I have a real good Toyota mechanic who showed this to me on my 2000 4runner. Two days later I heard a Landcruiser making the same noise mine was. My Grandmother has a Camry that just started doing the same thing last week. My mechanic had me wait to change the belts until my timing belt was due, unfortunately my water pump started leaking before the timing chain was due.
When mine did it, I too thought the alternator was failing.
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I read through this and I didn't see this suggestion. Have you totally ruled out belts noise? To do this, with the engine running drip a drop or two of water on each and see if that silences it or changes it....don't get water on anything else. I would rule that out first.
Toyota belts have a coating on them (felt like) that makes them quiet. Over time this wears off and they will start to get noisy. They are still fine, but they will drive you nuts. I have a real good Toyota mechanic who showed this to me on my 2000 4runner. Two days later I heard a Landcruiser making the same noise mine was. My Grandmother has a Camry that just started doing the same thing last week. My mechanic had me wait to change the belts until my timing belt was due, unfortunately my water pump started leaking before the timing chain was due.
When mine did it, I too thought the alternator was failing.
Toyota belts have a coating on them (felt like) that makes them quiet. Over time this wears off and they will start to get noisy. They are still fine, but they will drive you nuts. I have a real good Toyota mechanic who showed this to me on my 2000 4runner. Two days later I heard a Landcruiser making the same noise mine was. My Grandmother has a Camry that just started doing the same thing last week. My mechanic had me wait to change the belts until my timing belt was due, unfortunately my water pump started leaking before the timing chain was due.
When mine did it, I too thought the alternator was failing.
I think I still see the felt though?
I will try that.
If it is just the belt then it should be an easy fix.
I really try to take good care of my vehicles,
And I have been postponing this for so long.
Praying that it doesn't get worse...
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Well She went in today...
I wont get her back till Monday...
The issue...
A/C Clutch Bearing Went....
So there going to replace the bearing and clutch...
Some 600 odd dollars later....
I tried to convince mom to let me do it but meh, she would rather a professional...
Her dime...
Just a quick question, anyone know if there is a belt that will fit on that particular set up that is sized to compensate for not having an AC on there?
The reason I ask cause I was curious as to weather I could drive without having to have ac...
That back window down makes it nice to drive and the sunroof too so....
I wont get her back till Monday...
The issue...
A/C Clutch Bearing Went....
So there going to replace the bearing and clutch...
Some 600 odd dollars later....
I tried to convince mom to let me do it but meh, she would rather a professional...
Her dime...
Just a quick question, anyone know if there is a belt that will fit on that particular set up that is sized to compensate for not having an AC on there?
The reason I ask cause I was curious as to weather I could drive without having to have ac...
That back window down makes it nice to drive and the sunroof too so....
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Well She went in today...
I wont get her back till Monday...
The issue...
A/C Clutch Bearing Went....
So there going to replace the bearing and clutch...
Some 600 odd dollars later....
I tried to convince mom to let me do it but meh, she would rather a professional...
Her dime...
Just a quick question, anyone know if there is a belt that will fit on that particular set up that is sized to compensate for not having an AC on there?
The reason I ask cause I was curious as to weather I could drive without having to have ac...
That back window down makes it nice to drive and the sunroof too so....
I wont get her back till Monday...
The issue...
A/C Clutch Bearing Went....
So there going to replace the bearing and clutch...
Some 600 odd dollars later....
I tried to convince mom to let me do it but meh, she would rather a professional...
Her dime...
Just a quick question, anyone know if there is a belt that will fit on that particular set up that is sized to compensate for not having an AC on there?
The reason I ask cause I was curious as to weather I could drive without having to have ac...
That back window down makes it nice to drive and the sunroof too so....
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The alternator is on a sperate belt and so is the fan IIRC