Basic rebuild or stroker 22re?
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Basic rebuild or stroker 22re?
My machine shop gave me a couple of options on my rebuild.He said He could do a basic rebuild with some Kieth Black pistons that would add more compression and a bigger cam,he said it's the same one LCE sells,with turbo exhaust valves,new american head,timing set with metal guides,high volume oil pump for $1,350.The other option is that he can stroke it with a custom grind crank shaft,forged pistons,cam,turbo exhaust valves,timing set with metal guides,high volume oil pump and everything for $2,800.He said he's not sure on the performance increase with the 1st option,maybe 10-15%.He said the stroker will give me 30% more power and still keep the stock computer.Which is the best way to go?I live in the mountains and will drive it everyday.
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I guess it all depends on what your wallet allows for. If it's tight, then basic is fine. But if your budget is open I would fully recommend the stroker option. My brother had the inline 4 from his 60 CJ5 rebuilt and stroked at the same time and it's amasing how much torque that little motor puts out. Plus all of the torque is in the low end, ideal for wheeling.
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That sounds like a heck of a deal either way. A basic rebuild with new pistons, a new head, and a performance cam for $1350? Bone stock rebuilds sell for that much. I would suggest finding out what "basic" means though. Hopefully, it means grinding the crank, new cam, new valves, seats, springs, cam followers, reconditioned rods, new wrist pins, all new bearings and all that.
The stroker would be nice. Might as well go to larger pistons while you're at it and really get the benefit of the stroker crank. If you go with the forged pistons, make sure and relocate the knock sensor. Check out LCEngineering for info on how and why to do it.
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The stroker would be nice. Might as well go to larger pistons while you're at it and really get the benefit of the stroker crank. If you go with the forged pistons, make sure and relocate the knock sensor. Check out LCEngineering for info on how and why to do it.
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It includes everything new.He balances and blueprints all his engines too.He said his stroker runs about 800 less than LCE's.I may just do the 1,350 option as I want to put a new tranny in too but the stroker is still on the table.I was going to put my 302 in but I love the 22re so we're staying with that.
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Hmmmm
I'd go with the regular rebuild...it's not going to be a power house either way and I think you may sacrafice reliability and gas milage. Anyway, just my two cents...
I just built a new 22RE using a new Toyota short block, timing set, oil pump, water pump, and front cover. I re-used my head with a three-way valve job, new cam and rockers. I am very happy with my results and think the power is more than adequate for a small 4x4 truck...Also, I'm getting 23 - 24 mpg on the highway with 31x10.5x15 tires!!!!
good luck.
I just built a new 22RE using a new Toyota short block, timing set, oil pump, water pump, and front cover. I re-used my head with a three-way valve job, new cam and rockers. I am very happy with my results and think the power is more than adequate for a small 4x4 truck...Also, I'm getting 23 - 24 mpg on the highway with 31x10.5x15 tires!!!!
good luck.
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go for the stroker for sure. That is a hell of a deal. You should definately bounce on that. Is it installed, or is that for just the engine. I plan on getting mine rebuilt to somewhat of that extent soon. The guy who I will be gettin it done by, Larry/ YODAMAN, is a toyota god and hopefully will hook me up later this summer. Do the stroker for sure. good luck
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id go for the stroker. im assuming the 'stroker block' will put you in the range of 2650cc's and 2725cc's.thers is no replacement for displacement..the only things that worry me are: a:that the new block and longer stroke might not rev as quickly as before and b:what track record do the Cranks that your engine builder features have?
plus what funn is it to go with a stock set-up? additionally 2800 isnt too steep of a price considering what you're getting for that kind of scratch
plus what funn is it to go with a stock set-up? additionally 2800 isnt too steep of a price considering what you're getting for that kind of scratch
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just make sure that that is what you are going to be happy with. You mentioned something about putting a 302 in, well this would be the perfect time. If it's in good running shape, and you have a 5 speed, then it might be cheaper to do that than to rebuild the 22. You would also get a lot more power than you would ever get out of a 22.
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I have a wrecked 88 mustang gt with a 302/5 speed.I was going to do that but it will kinda be a pain.I would love to have the v8 power but I am wondering just how much everything will cost.I priced the radiator,headers,motor mounts,bellhousing/clutch an that all aded up to about 2300.I would still have to have a custom exhaust made and I just don't want to spend too much right now.I know once I got started the price would start climbing.If I do the stroker I will wait a month or so.
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302, 302, 302, 302, 302, 302, 302!
Im into mine well above $2500 and no doubt id be happier with a v8.
no matter what its still a truck being pushed by a 4cyl.
Im into mine well above $2500 and no doubt id be happier with a v8.
no matter what its still a truck being pushed by a 4cyl.
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