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ARB bullbar...
central4wd just increased their pricing for the arb tacoma bullbar to 729 from 698, shipped. anyone know another for a cheaper price? im putting it on my 98 4runner sr5...
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These guys are a bit cheaper
http://www.samsoffroad.com/samsoffro...BumperList.htm
http://www.samsoffroad.com/samsoffro...BumperList.htm
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If you plan on winching with that bumper I'd suggest the Rob Frame Rail Mod... done to my 4runner...
Some pics are here...
http://4roc.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5
Even if your framerails were not open like mine... the stock mounts at the end of your frame are so weak when doing winching, it can actually pull from your frame...
Rob had pics of this happening, but I can't find them...
Some pics are here...
http://4roc.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5
Even if your framerails were not open like mine... the stock mounts at the end of your frame are so weak when doing winching, it can actually pull from your frame...
Rob had pics of this happening, but I can't find them...
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These guys are a bit cheaper
http://www.samsoffroad.com/samsoffro...BumperList.htm
http://www.samsoffroad.com/samsoffro...BumperList.htm
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Originally Posted by Dr. Zhivago
If you have a storage locker like ie: U-haul or Storage Space Lock that qualify's as a commerical shipping address 4x4connection will ship it for $75 to a commercial address. I got my TJM T-17 from them for $452.10 to my storage locker.
Also you might try www.desertrat.com they sell bull bars as well.
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Originally Posted by Ducky
If you plan on winching with that bumper I'd suggest the Rob Frame Rail Mod... done to my 4runner...
Some pics are here...
http://4roc.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5
Even if your framerails were not open like mine... the stock mounts at the end of your frame are so weak when doing winching, it can actually pull from your frame...
Rob had pics of this happening, but I can't find them...
Some pics are here...
http://4roc.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5
Even if your framerails were not open like mine... the stock mounts at the end of your frame are so weak when doing winching, it can actually pull from your frame...
Rob had pics of this happening, but I can't find them...
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Originally Posted by WATRD
This is what typically happens if you winch on the stock end caps. Most of the winching load is put on the end of the frame, not the bolts that go through the side and Toyota never planned on that
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Remedy is... see Link I posted...
Here it is again...
Pics.. are kinda in reverse order... =)
http://4roc.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5
Here it is again...
Pics.. are kinda in reverse order... =)
http://4roc.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5
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When I mounted mine it came with blocks that bolted on the end of the frame & when I put the bumper brackets on the 2 bolts that held the tow hook on one side & the tow loop on the other were used adding strength to the brackets.The way my brackets look it would be hard do that kind of damage when winching.There are 3 bolts holding it to each frame rail & 1 long one going through from top to bottm on each side.One thing I didn't really care for was the crumple zone on the brackets.Seems if I put the front of the truck against a tree to winch a heavy load it would push the bumper in.
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Originally Posted by 92 Toyota
When I mounted mine it came with blocks that bolted on the end of the frame & when I put the bumper brackets on the 2 bolts that held the tow hook on one side & the tow loop on the other were used adding strength to the brackets.The way my brackets look it would be hard do that kind of damage when winching.There are 3 bolts holding it to each frame rail & 1 long one going through from top to bottm on each side.One thing I didn't really care for was the crumple zone on the brackets.Seems if I put the front of the truck against a tree to winch a heavy load it would push the bumper in.
However, the end cap problem still remains. When you winch hard, massive amounts of force can be placed on those horizontal bolts that go through the ARB blocks and into the end of the frame. That causes the end cap to distort as in the pictures.
I have seen the same thing on several rigs now, fixed it on a few
Keep an eye on it.
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Originally Posted by 92 Toyota
Thanks Rob, I don't do a whole lot of winching but I will keep an eye on it just in case.Thanks for the great info!
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I should also add that when that endcap starts to distort, you will see deformation of the vertical bolt holes as the bolts move around. Look for that as well since you don't have to completely remove the bumper to see it. The holes become egg shaped as the horizontal bolts loosen and allow the bumper to move forward and back.
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