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Old 12-18-2004, 02:31 AM
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I stay on good terms with folks at Las Cruces Toyota (NM). If I need advice, they're quick to give it. Good people. If I hear conflicting advice here, they give the perspective of someone who has worked on hundreds of 3.0's.
Old 12-18-2004, 06:54 PM
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Is it a certain type of plug that your using? I never had a vehicle have a plug back out. I always use anti-seize on them too. I torque all them though with a torque wrench.
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You may be right. If they're telling people to oil the threads on the plugs before installation, then they probably do have experience working on hundreds of 3VZFE's.:p

It sounds like a band-aid fix to address bad engineering to me. Let the oil film seal up the tolerances inside the plug hole to reduce leaks or something.

Thanks, but no thanks. No oil for my sparkplugs. I'll just continue cleaning the threads and inserting the sparkplugs in dry with a torque wrench if possible. I've got over 400K miles with no driveability issues at all on my 22R.
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i'm prolly asking for it here, but, here goes.....i've found that aluminum head plug threads can bind a little when installing dry plugs. the prolem here is that sometimes the plugs "feel" tight when they are actually binding in the head. so (and i'm with mikedog on this one), i lube my plug threads with (and i say this with a wincing look on my face).......uhhhh.....slobber. the theory here, however demented, is that the slobber will temporarily lube the threads and evaporated after start up to eliminate unintentional backout.

my slobber technique is patented so don't ask.......
Old 12-18-2004, 09:17 PM
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I did my plugs the first time and I gapped them wrong....DOH! Then I picked up a 2 dollar swivel socket and man did it make it a breeze to change! I would recommend this cheap little item for every do-it-yoursefer in here.
Old 12-18-2004, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nyceride
I did my plugs the first time and I gapped them wrong....DOH! Then I picked up a 2 dollar swivel socket and man did it make it a breeze to change! I would recommend this cheap little item for every do-it-yoursefer in here.
$2 swivel socket? where are you buying tools?
Old 12-19-2004, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by fustercluck
the theory here, however demented, is that the slobber will temporarily lube the threads and evaporated after start up to eliminate unintentional backout.
The same is true for oil. It will either vaporize or turn to carbon after the engine gets hot.
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Originally Posted by 3car
$2 swivel socket? where are you buying tools?
haha, I didn't know what a swivel socket was....so to save me dissapointment I went to Wal Mart and picked up a cheap swivel socket bit to test it out. I eventually will pick up a set or true swivel sockets at one point but for the amount of work I actually do to my truck its not neccassary right now. But I do nkow that the tools I have are junk.
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Originally Posted by yamarocket630
Does your 3.0l have clockwise or anti-clockwise swirl chambered heads? If you have the anti-clockwise heads, you need to get swirl force cancellation type plugs, otherwise the high swirl forces will eventually loosen the plugs. If you have clockwise swirl heads, you need standard plugs, as the swirl will keep them tightened just fine.

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As for the counter-clockwise rotation of water in the southen hemisphere, well that's bogus. "Mythbusters" debunked that myth a long time ago.[/QUOTE]


Um, no it isn't. I've been there and seen it with my own eyes. Water going down the toilet swirls the wrong way. Really confusing when you're drunk... In the same way weather patterns (like hurricanes) circle the opposite in the southern hemisphere. But I don't know where in the world they came up with "positive earth" electrical systems. THAT one is pretty bogus...

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