Another S/C is in!
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Originally Posted by turboale
Good luck finding one... my buddy used to really be into legends. My uncle has a GS sedan and loves it. Its a blast to drive! You just don't see the coupes anywhere! I love the rear ends though... I don't know about it being faster than a runner with all those mods though... maybe with 33s...
Mark,
I was counting you...
Mark,
I was counting you...
i passed on one about a month ago w/ about 140k on it. it was white. i'm holding out for a black one.
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Side note...
Just got off the phone with the chick that has the 02 4x2 with S/C/7th/Nos here in town and I didn't even know this, but she works at a tranny place and so she is going to check into what it would cost for them to do it. They can upgrade both the valve body and torque converter for whoever is interested. For our application though, I think the valve body sounds like enough. I'll keep everyone posted!
Just got off the phone with the chick that has the 02 4x2 with S/C/7th/Nos here in town and I didn't even know this, but she works at a tranny place and so she is going to check into what it would cost for them to do it. They can upgrade both the valve body and torque converter for whoever is interested. For our application though, I think the valve body sounds like enough. I'll keep everyone posted!
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Originally Posted by FilthyRich
I got it. I'll send IPT an e-mail. Keep you posted...
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Originally Posted by turboale
Side note...
Just got off the phone with the chick that has the 02 4x2 with S/C/7th/Nos here in town and I didn't even know this, but she works at a tranny place and so she is going to check into what it would cost for them to do it. They can upgrade both the valve body and torque converter for whoever is interested. For our application though, I think the valve body sounds like enough. I'll keep everyone posted!
Just got off the phone with the chick that has the 02 4x2 with S/C/7th/Nos here in town and I didn't even know this, but she works at a tranny place and so she is going to check into what it would cost for them to do it. They can upgrade both the valve body and torque converter for whoever is interested. For our application though, I think the valve body sounds like enough. I'll keep everyone posted!
Dave
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Originally Posted by TRDOLMAN
I talked to John on the phone a couple of hours ago. He said he is up for a group buy. He is already a lot lower in price than Level 10. Give him a call and get this set up before he changes his mind!
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https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...ight=group+buy
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Originally Posted by 4-RUNNIN' FREAK
Not fair? Read this and look at the reason John said he can't offer a group buy a few months ago.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...ight=group+buy
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...ight=group+buy
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Originally Posted by midiwall
Did you notice what he did to "unlock" the WOT power? Are you running a EGT or A/FM, did he hook up an A/FM on the fly, or did he just kinda' go by the seat of his pants?
He made adjustments to various cell values based on fuel trims, etc in both the closed and open loop.
WE stoppped the car many, many times and reloaded different maps.
MY truck is twice as fast. Holy crap, i can't believe it and i have 285s
Going to call John first thing in the am!!!!
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Originally Posted by FilthyRich
I have a wideband o2 sensor w/ FTC and AFR display.
The number represent a ratio of fuel to air, so as the number to the left of the colon gets smaller, then you're adding air. 14:1 is leaner ("the mixture has more air") than 13:1.
fwiw, an engine will tend to make it's best power around 12.7:1...
Austin; cool. I just wanted to be sure.
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Originally Posted by midiwall
'k... So he's just tuning "the normal" way. btw, when you say "10.5" you mean an A/FR of 10.5:1 right? That'd be way "rich", not lean.
The number represent a ratio of fuel to air, so as the number to the left of the colon gets smaller, then you're adding air. 14:1 is leaner ("the mixture has more air") than 13:1.
fwiw, an engine will tend to make it's best power around 12.7:1...
Austin; cool. I just wanted to be sure.
The number represent a ratio of fuel to air, so as the number to the left of the colon gets smaller, then you're adding air. 14:1 is leaner ("the mixture has more air") than 13:1.
fwiw, an engine will tend to make it's best power around 12.7:1...
Austin; cool. I just wanted to be sure.
I'll hopefully talk to John tomorrow about the vb upgrade
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I can do that with stock 3.0 I have now and no s/c.
Of course the object in front of me has to be really solid....t poles dont work as the bumper bends.........
Of course the object in front of me has to be really solid....t poles dont work as the bumper bends.........
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Originally Posted by FilthyRich
I know that it makes power ideally best at 12 but i believe i am around 11.5:1 ish at WOT, pretty close.
The difference from 11.5:1 and 12.7:1 is pretty big. The entire scale that's typically shown on a graphing meter only runs from from 16:1-12.5:1. I can feel a difference when I move from 13:1 to 12.5:1
I'm not suggesting that you tweak it, but 11.5:1 is still a lot of fuel.
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Okay feel free to smack me for this one but what is a URD, and why does it cost $700. Fill me in on all the details if you don't mind. I don't like reading things I don't understand fully.
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Okay feel free to smack me for this one but what is a URD, and why does it cost $700. Fill me in on all the details if you don't mind. I don't like reading things I don't understand fully.
There are generally two ways to deal with these issues: a) get the "7th injector" kit fom TRD; b) get the kit from "URD" which is "URD USA", which is the company that "Gadget" and Brian Trager started a while back.
The 7th kit from TRD works well, but it's not tweakable. The URD kit is a lot more work to install, but is VERY tweakable.
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Scott,
Its a kit gadget has put together to remedy the fuel starvation we get with an S/C. Its bigger injectors, smaller pulley (more boost) and a fully customizable computer to fine tune everything.
Dave,
Thanks for asking about the group buy! I agree about the tranny stuff, I just asked her if she wanted to get in on it and she was like, well I work at a tranny shop... so I said why not? Get me a price. At least I have a place that can take everything apart for me and put it back together while I'm gone.
Its a kit gadget has put together to remedy the fuel starvation we get with an S/C. Its bigger injectors, smaller pulley (more boost) and a fully customizable computer to fine tune everything.
Dave,
Thanks for asking about the group buy! I agree about the tranny stuff, I just asked her if she wanted to get in on it and she was like, well I work at a tranny shop... so I said why not? Get me a price. At least I have a place that can take everything apart for me and put it back together while I'm gone.
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Okay feel free to smack me for this one but what is a URD, and why does it cost $700. Fill me in on all the details if you don't mind. I don't like reading things I don't understand fully.
The TRD 7th Injector Kit is about $1100 off the net and like mentioned above is literally a 7th injector that will inject fuel b/w the throttlebody and the SC intake and is pretty much plug and play, but you can't trim it how you want it. You can get them used from time to time, but the controllers are vehicle and year specific, so a controller from a 2002 taco may or may not work correctly on my 99 4runner or any other 3.4L.
The URD kit is $900 new, and is 6 new injectors, a new fuel pump, 6 new spark plugs, a new thermostat, and a controller to manage the extra fuel and is fully adjustable so the system can be "tweaked". The URD kits are very rare to find used. $700 is the used price w/o the larger fuel pump.
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Originally Posted by midiwall
I don't want to beat a horse here, but I think it's important to point this out...
The difference from 11.5:1 and 12.7:1 is pretty big. The entire scale that's typically shown on a graphing meter only runs from from 16:1-12.5:1. I can feel a difference when I move from 13:1 to 12.5:1
I'm not suggesting that you tweak it, but 11.5:1 is still a lot of fuel.
The difference from 11.5:1 and 12.7:1 is pretty big. The entire scale that's typically shown on a graphing meter only runs from from 16:1-12.5:1. I can feel a difference when I move from 13:1 to 12.5:1
I'm not suggesting that you tweak it, but 11.5:1 is still a lot of fuel.
Dave