I just got a new Snowmobile video and there is a sled w/ a cummins turbo on it . As I was going down the road today I thought If you could make a cummins turbo work on a sled then you could surely make one work on a 22re right ? Im just wondering if anyone has ever pondered this or tryed it ? What would the major probs be ? Thanx and check ya L8r !

 

any one ??? what would some probs be ?

 

Hey,
If you are talking about the 5.9 cummins (I6) that is in the Dodge trucks, I think it would be safe to say it won't fit. Would be awesome though.

Here's a link to a post about possible diesel engines that may fit in a Toyota (not sure though):

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...ghlight=diesel

If you are serious about a swap, I would look into the 3.4 or supra engine swap.

Well, have fun.
DH6twinotter

 

I assume that you're talkin about the turbo and not the whole engine
Mating the exaust manifold to the toubo you would need to fabricate an adaptor. You need to make your own intake piping and an oil supply and drain. I don't think the 4 banger will make enough air to spool up the turbo. I think the A/R ratio would have to be changed. I think it would be cheaper in the long run to use an aftermarket kit.

 

You wouldn't want a Cummins turbo. Their turbos are larger bodied, which is good if you have a huge displacement, but on a small engine, it would take forever to spool up. Now that's what I know about their regular turbos.... I'm guessing if they put a cummins turbo on a sled..... it is most likely a different turbo.

I would suggest using a T25 turbo. It will spool up quickly and give a safe amount of boost for a 4cyl. There are quite a few cars on the market that use T25 turbos, so it shouldn't be hard to find one.

 

If you are talking Diesel engines. Don't get a Cummins. Get a real engine, a Caterpillar.

Martin

 

The hotside on the Holset turbos used on Cummins truck motors is way too large for a 4 cylinder to spool. Keep in mind that the Cummins is more than twice the size of your 4 cyl with twice the compression ratio, which equates to a lot more exhaust flow at the turbine than your 4 cylinder will ever see.

 

Don't tell anyone, but I am working on a Detroit Series 60 conversion right now. I think I just need to move the radiator forward a little bit. Then I am going to put an Allision 6 speed auto behind it. Having a Jake Brake on a Runner is going to be really cool.

Gadget

www.GadgetOnline.com

 

Oops. My bad. I thought he was talking about the whole engine/turbo until you said that. I was thinking that a snowmobile with a 5.9 cummins TD in it would have been pretty odd!

Gadget--Are you serious!?! That would be awesome!

Well, have fun all.
DH6twinotter

 

No, I am not serious.

Gadget

www.GadgetOnline.com

 

well it was just a shot in the dark. but I figured it was worth mentioning here.

 

Here is the closest I think you will find. http://www.lcengineering.com/TurboKits.htm

 

LOL.....Gadget you crack me up!

Yes, you could certainly run a turbo, but the one you mentioned is far too inertia heavy. You need to look for a low inertia model which will spool up fast and give you power faster when you ask for it. There are some hybrid turbos out there with low inertia and higher output but you need to check around. A nice T3 or T3/4 ould work well in that application. It will be a major PITA to route all the stuff (esp to create the custom exhaust) but you will be grinning ear to ear when it is done.

 

Yeah, there is no way a cummis turbo would work on a 22R.

Cummis are a 5.9 and are diesel. The A/R ratios for gas and diesel are complety different, not to mention a 5.9 is HUGE.

I would bet that the Hot side A/R on a cummins is around a 2.0, where most 4cyl hondas are between .4 and .5. A ct-20 on a 22R I would guess to be around a .5 to .55.

A 22R would never spool a 2.0 ratio unless you were running about a 300HP shot of NOS, and even then, it won't spool well.

 

The question was, I think, could you turbocharge a 22re. Not that particular turbo, right?

The answer to that is "absolutely". In fact you should be able to get all the parts you need in a junkyard. Toyota made Turbo pickups and 4Runners in the late 80s - I believe the engine was designated "22R-TE". I would guess that the turbo bits (I'm guessing Turbo, exhaust parts, maybe bigger fuel pump and injectors - ECU maybe too?) would probably all fit or at least form the basis of a conversion kit.

Actually, now that I think about it, if a sled motor could spool it, a truck motor should as well! Maybe cummins makes a smaller turbo for certain applications?

C

 

You could even try using a supercharger from an MR2. It is a small displacement but should provide at least some decent intake pressure increase and shaould be quite cheap to buy (on ebay anyway....saw one go for $400). Will likely require some fab work to mount it but hey, that would be nice to have a S/C'd 4-banger for just a couple hundred bucks right?

I even found someone selling one just for that engine!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2440497419

Here are some turbos:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2439522489