Sport, if you happne to find yourself with a digicam and a little bit of spare time, it would be cool if you could take a picture of your set up. If not don't worry about it, I'm just trying to document things like this.

Also, in your opinion, do you think there could be a solution if say one ran a .25" spacer and trimmed that lip on the end of the arm? (assuming that lip is what's hitting.) If the difference between stock 235's widths and the 31X10.5's is really about .75" per side, then a .25" spacer with even .25" of trimming will clear.


Frank

 

ok... I went out to fool around with the Ball Joint spacers... with stock rims and 31x10.5.

I at Stock cranking on torsion bar height... the spaceing is a little over 3/4", I can slide 3/4" piece of wood between the tire and A-Arm. At full drop, it is a little less... I would say 1/4-3/8" spacing... Couldn't check for full compression, I didn't want to risk breaking the adjuster bolts yet (no PB Blaster at the house).

ONCE I get my rear coils in and Hubs... I shall install everything and take photos at full drop, ride heigt and full compression.

once agian, this was on a set of 15x7" slpit 4 spoke wheels with 31x10.50R15...
from my observation, i wouldn't rim a 32" pm stock rims with these.

 

Things are getting interesting. Some pics would be great. Thanks in advance.

Frank

 

http://groups.msn.com/sportjrs4runne...msnw?Page=Last

No worries Frank, I cant get the pic to take, stupid XP, here is a link with a pic I took tonight for ya.

I did grind it down a bit for safty sake all ready, just cause that lip really wasn't that important anyway.

Ok, go the torsion bars under and the truck back on four feet on its own. I am running 31 10.5's on my stock steel rims. The tire is about a half inch from the arm now, BUT... I still need an alignment bad. I am toeing in (bottom of wheel is farther under truck than the top) Once that is done, the rub will be there. Unless, and this may be cause I know nothing about alignment, the top of the wheel goes out also. I am sitting 14 inches top of rim to fender. I have no idea what stock is supposed to be at, but I know the torsion adjuster bots have about 1.25 inches showing above the top nut.

 

Flygenstein, I can't wait to get moved back home to MN, I know we will have to get togather for a beer. I think we will get along real well. Your reply is what I thought after I posted it.

 

could the aftermarket sway away torsion bars have anything to do with the rubbing, say if your going to keep the stock bars in, maybe it would be different.

 

This is my gap on a 92 with 32x10.5 x15 on 15x8 wheels (aftermarket)

That's what mine looked like. It's toed in , but your camber is what is way off(like mine). The bottom of your A-arms need adjusted out.

 

That is stock, decided against the sway a ways when all the crap started to happen, figured just leave them till I get all the other problems fixed.

 

Sport, thanks for that pic. That is perfect. Do you mind if I put it on my website? I'd like to show people what it might look like if they have that similar set up. I'm hypothesizing that a .25" spacer will give you some breathing room after the alignment. We'll of course have to see.

You are correct, the top of the tire will come in, but just a little bit. I look forward to hearing how things are after the alignment.

Thanks for your help. I absolutely hate using customers for quality control but I'm a start up and with so many different configurations of aftermarket tires and rims, it's just downright nearly impossible to find examples of the all options to check out. I hope someday to have a small fleet of test trucks or at least test parts where I can throw on different rims, etc... to see what happens.

Frank

 

You probably already know this but those t-bars will decrease your flex. They are great if you are say into catching air or running the high speed desert thing. On the trail they are not your friend and will limit suspension travel big time.

Frank

 

Feel free to use the pics, Not a problem to me at all. The quarter inch spacer will probly make the difference If your right about the tire staying close to where it is after fixing the toe.

Your speaking of the sway a way I assume, I figured that would be the case till more weight is added to the front. That was another factor I have been messing with for a while. I will make my own bumper fro the front, and I am not ready for a winch quite yet. So I figured they can wait a while. Thanks for the heads up anyway.

 

I am a little confused by this thread now. I am planning on installing my spacers tomorrow. I am running stock rims with 31x10.5x15 general mudders that actually measure more like 30.2x10 am I going to have issues?

 

You should be fine. wvuviv30 has 31X10.5's and has plenty of clearance. The original truck I used as a prototype had a similar set up and cleared no problem.

Frank

 

so really its more of a matter of tire width, rather than wheel backspacing? oh man now im getting way confused. hahahahaha

 

That makes two of us. I have seen pics now of trucks with stockers and 31X10.5's on 'em having plenty of room. Sportjr, what's the width on your tires? You might have said and I missed it. Is it possible the particular brand of your tires bulge more on the sides? You have 32's right? Maybe it's a combo of the tire diameter and width?

I'm not sure I'm at the bottom of the rubbing as there seems to be conflicting info. I hope to nail down the differences quick here. What I have gathered is a lot of people run 31X10.5's and have about .75" of clearance. So far, Sport has run into rubbing and I *think* he has 32X11.5's.

Frank

 

This is getting troublesome, lol. I have 31 10.5 Dunlop radial rovers. You can see the rims on my reply above in the link I posted.

Marc, looking at your pic, you look to have about the same back spacing as I do. Check the BS, If it is 4 inch or less, you should be ok, with 4 being close to the edge of rubbing. If it is more you probly will have rubbing. The way to tell I would guess is look at how far in your A arm is away from the wheel now, and estimate how far up it will be when it is an inch and a half higher.

 

oh man. hmmm i guess i wont know untill i try.

 

If I can offer anything it is this, the odds are in your favor of no rubbing. We have examples of the same size tire clearing and rubbing on what appears to be the same rim. (please correct me if I'm wrong) We have about 60 pair out there, one reported case of rubbing. What troubles me is I don't understand the differences between those that work and the one that doesn't. I can only hope that more light will shed with more installs.

If you can post pics that's always helpful cause they are worth tons of words.

Frank

 

So is there anyone running these spacers with 33x12.50s (stock rims) on a 2nd gen runner?

 

Not sure if any of these pics will help anyone but here goes.

The 32x10.5x15 on 15 x8 rim that works with lift... and 235x75x 15 on stock steel wheel that won't

Backspacing of 32 tire's rim, about 3 5/8" \/

Backspcing on stock steel wheel...about 4 7/16" \/


stock steel wheel \/


32x10. on 15 x8 ....3 5/8" backspacing \/



Guess I'll have to buy spacers to run my 235's in the winter time