When You do that swap can I have your V6

 

I want to know how hard a 4.7 swap into a 99 tacoma would be? I want a S\C but with a 4.7 I wouldn't need it Or I could get the 4.7 v8

Jason

 

An innocent question...

Why spend all the time, money and aggravation of trying to shove a 4.7 in your 2 or 3rd generation? In two years the '03 4th generations will have depreciated enough to buy a new rig with the 4.7 stock.

 

V8 has much more low end grunt. The peak hp band for the V8 is in the 2-4000 rpm range, the boosted 3.4 has its hp band much higher in the rpm zone. Plus the 5spd auto shifts at the right points and keeps the motor spooled.

I didn't have a S/C on my 3.4, but comparing the non S/C 3.4 to the 4.7 is like comparing apples to oranges. The 4.7 reminds me of an old Z28 I had in high school. This engine/tranny combo rocks!

 

Just rain on the parade why dont you.

 

Gee, I dunno - let's see...
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In a couple of years a 2003 will be 4 years old. Have you priced used 4Runners? They don't really depreciate all that much very quickly. Personally, I can't see sinking mid-$20's and quickly dumping more into it for mods.

I bought my 93 back in 95 for like $22K. It has taken me 8+ years to do the mods I have. Granted, they've happened alot more quickly now that I'm on YT alot.

All bets are off though if I start crapping money...

 

Ok, what dream are you in? Your telling me that a ten year old vehicle runs without major maintenance or repair? Wow! No repair bills (Big $$ tranny, motor, etc.).

To replace and fabricate the 4.7 w/5spd tranny will cost you prolly $10K into a 2gen. Add up the other repair bills for a ten year old vehicle and $20K isn't much. Not to mention the fabrication needed for the transfer case, etc.

But if you are into maintaining your rig (all aspects) and driving them until the wheels fall or rust off, spend away.

 

As Cebby said, the whole reason i started this thread is because i love my 2nd gen. and wouldn't think about trading for a 4th gen. my only complaint is the lack of power. i was just curious about a 4.7 swap but obviously the 3.4 swap is much more practical. i personally don't like the 4th gen. model at all compared to the older models and plus the process of working on it and modifying it is half the fun!

 

I also would rather have a 2nd or 3rd gen than a 4th gen. I like their size and look. Not a huge ass vehicle. I'm not saying I don't like the 4th gen. It would be my first choice if buying a newer suv.
And yes, my 10 yr old vehicle runs and is in great condition without ANY repairs, rust, etc. Maintenance is a given for any car. I think the biggest cost would be the engine. When I was in high school we used to do all kinds of engine swaps to cars. We would fabricate everything needed. This was half the fun.
Oh and by the way did I mention a lot more ground clearance on 2nd gens compared to 4th gens. I compare everyday as my parnter at work has a 4th gen.

 

V8s are not very long, chief. Think about it...it's 2 banks of 4 cylinders each....hmm sounds roughly the same length as an inline 4...didn't some 4runners come with an inline 4 for a few years? The cylinder displacement is roughly double the 22RE

 

a coworker has a 04 4runner...

dont remember if he has the v8 or v6. i'll measure his front (rad) to firewall distance and compare with my 90...

 

Geez, McFly, haven't you learned anything coming to Yotatech?

If it was a money pit, I'd never have kept it, but the only things that have needed to be replaced are the brakes, tires, exhaust (got stainless now) and the rear window regulator/motor. Last year was the first time I had a little body rust to be repaired. I think that is why I'm so attached to it. It hasn't hit me with a big repair bill. None of my Toyotas have.

I have 125K miles now. I'm hoping for no major issues until well over 200K miles. Time will tell.

As for $10K for the swap, if that's the case, I'd never do it. I'm having a little problem coming up with $10K though. Engine Tranny Transfercase can be had in my area for about $3500. Maybe another $200 for the ECU. I'd do the work myself. By the way, I have an auto now and would stick with that. Even if it's another $1000 in misc. parts, it would be like a new vehicle (to me anyway) for the cost of the swap.

I've leased cars and trucks of various makes, but I always buy Toyotas so I can keep them for a long time. Having the latest and greatest doesn't do it for me anymore.

 

If people are installing Inline 6 Supra motors and Chevy V8's, the Toy one "should" fit just fine.

 

the biggest problem you will run into with the toy v8 is width, being a DOHC v8 is going to cause problems more than likely. GM v8's are pushrods and slightly narrower. I am sure that it can be done, but it will probably require an SAS and reworking the front frame rails and inner fenders.

 

I've posted a couple of times asking for dimensions on these motors. No one ever responds.

The DOHC width thing makes sense, although the bottom of the motor shouldn't be alot bigger, just the heads, etc. Inner fender reworking = OK - frame rail reworking = BAD. I thought I read that it can be done with IFS. Maybe not.

If only we could get some dimensions. Hey, aren't there some guys that work for Toyota on here???

 

well, did some measuring on the coworker's 03.

unfortunately he has a v6.

i'll compare the measurements to my 90 and see if the dimensions are the same.

 

the good news is that since tundra's are available with the same motor we have all the components should be available to make a swap work.

 

Because I feel that the Tacoma will most likely be the last tacoma with a rear locker and a compact truck. Something that is great on the trail. I'm pretty sure the tacoma will be my last truck. and when the motor gets tired I want something with more torq. I also don't want to start all over putting dents on a new truck. If mine gets wrecked I will most likely buy a used one.

I have always been the guy to go with the smaller motor. But When I go wheelin I tow a tent trailer and the 3.4v6 with 4:88's and 35's And it tows fine. But hit the hills or put a quad or some weight in the rear and it gets little slugish.

We had a tundra and I loved the effortless power of the 4.7. It had a great power curve.

Things may change but I'm starting to lean towards a 4.7 swap.

 

The 3.4L is more compact than the 3.0, and it has an extra cam and .4L displacement, so isn't it possible the 4.7L isn't much bigger than the 3.0L? I don't think it's bigger than a 302/350 V8.

 

Yeah, I know how you feel about your 2nd gen runner, if I had the cash right now and if I knew it was possible I would be all over that swap!