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Old 12-11-2008 | 07:11 PM
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35MPG in a 04 prerunner: Come on- Water Cell?

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/954595395.html

This dude is so full of .

some one local should go kick his ass.


Old 12-11-2008 | 07:14 PM
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No way is he getting 35mpg
Old 12-11-2008 | 07:26 PM
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Thats better mpg than my civic lol
Old 12-11-2008 | 09:29 PM
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You guys missed the good part, it also comes with a salvage title! for only $12,500?
Old 12-11-2008 | 10:25 PM
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These things do work although they are highly experimental. Not only do you get better gas mileage, you get more power. However it makes the motor run very lean, so reliability.... I don't know.

The system I have seen before is the PICC (Pre-Ignition Catalytic Converter), they do work but from what I have seen the systems can be pretty sketchy because they have to be adapted to every car.

Check this out, it also talks about the Hydro ones.

http://www.preignitioncc.com/wjessee/
Old 12-12-2008 | 12:12 AM
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My dad had a secret carburetor that let his 1978 F250 w/460 V8 & full size camper get over 100 mpg, but the suits from Detroit came & replaced it with an "improved" model & then he only got 8 mpg. When he tried to the original back, they told him it didn't exist.
Old 12-12-2008 | 12:51 AM
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Here's info on the guy selling this:

http://www.phact.org/e/z/dennisLeeonstealsanddeals.WMV

http://www.phact.org/e/dennis.html

http://www.nmsr.org/denislee.htm

I think I'll just check my tires.
Old 12-12-2008 | 12:52 AM
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hmmm, salvage title..


Old 12-12-2008 | 04:03 AM
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the only way i can see getting 35mpg out of a taco is a 2rz mini
Old 12-12-2008 | 05:24 AM
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this guy is priceless... not only did he get duped into buying a salvage, he then got bamboozled into purchasing that water/hydrogen fuel economy kit. I bet he has also sent some money to some friendly guys in nigeria who just need a little help.
Old 12-12-2008 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mpavolka
These things do work although they are highly experimental. Not only do you get better gas mileage, you get more power. However it makes the motor run very lean, so reliability.... I don't know.

The system I have seen before is the PICC (Pre-Ignition Catalytic Converter), they do work but from what I have seen the systems can be pretty sketchy because they have to be adapted to every car.

Check this out, it also talks about the Hydro ones.

http://www.preignitioncc.com/wjessee/
umm no they don't work.
Old 12-12-2008 | 08:00 AM
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umm no they don't work.
Actually they do, a co-worker of mine is a registered dealer for the PICC system and it is possible to get crazy mileage but from what I have seen it is pretty tough to keep something from faulting... the mileage is there, but check engine lights and other issues seem to prevent any real reliability for it. He installed a system like this on an higher mileage KIA and for the first couple months it worked great, about 40 mpg from the usual 22 or so. However, eventually it somehow broke the ECU. So I don't think its worth it yet, but it can be done.
Old 12-12-2008 | 08:29 AM
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OMG I could just modify my EGR valve and increase my MPG'S by like 243%!

Yup this technology is absolutely full of crap! Anyone can make some videos and a website and say things to sell money. Get one and prove us all wrong, but when you waste more money than buying a prius or smart car, you are the one who has officially learned the hard way.
Old 12-12-2008 | 08:31 AM
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I bet it would get 35 mpg, if it was riding on a trailer and running at idle! I want it, who wouldnt for that price and scrap title, and it comes with his crack pipe!!!!!
Old 12-12-2008 | 08:37 AM
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Yeah it runs the motor lean. Lean = knock = boom. these motors are lasting 10k miles at best, and blowing up. We had a heated discussion about this on the Subaru forums not too long ago. Believe me turbo guys know about leaning out a motor and the fatal effects that follow soon after.

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Old 12-12-2008 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mpavolka
Actually they do, a co-worker of mine is a registered dealer for the PICC system and it is possible to get crazy mileage but from what I have seen it is pretty tough to keep something from faulting... the mileage is there, but check engine lights and other issues seem to prevent any real reliability for it. He installed a system like this on an higher mileage KIA and for the first couple months it worked great, about 40 mpg from the usual 22 or so. However, eventually it somehow broke the ECU. So I don't think its worth it yet, but it can be done.
I thought when something "works", it's not broken?
Old 12-12-2008 | 10:14 AM
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Yeah this really works, and by 'works' I mean your engine won't last and you can only get the claimed 44mpg if you put 1 gallon of gas in it and start at the top of a hill, you don't actually average 44mpg over the whole tank! I mean are you guys crazy or what? gas weighs like 6lbs/gal, it's heavy!
Old 12-12-2008 | 10:34 AM
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What about that old school ponitiac Fiero that was really good on gas developed my Smokey Unick......err what was his name?

Do you guys know what i am talking about.

You want an increase in MPG's--look at the Crowler six stroke--that is genius
Old 12-12-2008 | 10:43 AM
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Crowler's six stroke is pretty cool, wonder how far he will take the research. Hope it works out in the long run, serious potential
Old 12-12-2008 | 10:51 AM
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Smokey Yunick Hot Vapr Pontiac Fiero......



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