I own a 1989 Toyota 4Runner with a DOA Overbored TB and Jacobs coil & Wires and I modified the Intake housing and of course put ina K&N filter.

I also changed the gears to 4.88

I don't really have a power issue any more. With the 5 speed my 4Runner moves in 1st Gear at idle and I take on hills without any problem.

As for swapping engines. I wouldn't mid having a supercharger 3.4L like I have in my 98 Limited 4Runner.

I think I would never stop grinning If I have a 3.4L S/C with my 5 Speed.

As it is my Limited is of course an automatic but there's plenty of power for it so I don't mind.

Just my 2 cents.

If any one has done a 3.4L swap to a Gen 1 4Runner I'm interested.

 

The 3.0 is a 3VZE, produced in 1988-1995 150hp@4800 180 torque@3400.


Just curious, are you going to be taking this kit and having someone else do all the work or are you going to do it yourself and document everything?

 

Thanks for the specs Adam. I couldnt seem to find any pages with them listed when I did my searches yestarday.

As for your question, J & I will be doing as much of the work ourselves as possible. We are going to custom fabricate all the neccesary parts that are possible with our provided tools and workstations. Of course certain parts will have to be ordered from a shop or vendor if we cant make them ourselves. We will then assemble the kits (as well as the engine if the buyer choses not to find his own) ourselves into boxes for shipping.

Everything will be VERY WELL documented. We plan to film the test-swap if we can get our hands on a good Digital Video Camera. Parts of that video (because it will be extremely long and will need to be edited) will be included in a CD-R version of the Instructions (instructions both on paper and on the CD). We may use Powerpoint for the CD in order to best combine video features as well as text and pictures/diagrams.

I hope this answers your question.

Dave

 

Cool! Should be a good swap kit when you get it all together.


If you want a test monkey and provide the parts, I have a 1st gen with a 3.0!

 

This cherry red Toyota Supra early 90's I think pulled into my apt. complex this afternoon while I was wiring up my KC lights. I was thinking along the lines of a crazy person and thought to myself if I just stole it then I could build mine up. The stupid thought quickly disappeared after thinking of a dirty jail cell with bubba whispering "wanna be my friend"? I went back to wiring quickly! <~~~~Me

 

I'm all-for a well documented I-6 engine swap. I have both a 3.0 V6 pickup and a turbo I6 Supra. Even though the Supra engine has more "stuff" than the truck (turbo, intercooler & all the associated plumbing), the I-6 is way easier to work on than the V. The I-6 is much smoother, has better low end torque and sounds better than just about any other engine I've ever heard. Not to mention mine is making 320 hp and 345 ft lbs with just an exhaust and slightly higher boost.

As for dropping-in a 2JZ-GE, I don't think the slight increase in torque from the 3.0 V6's 180 to 210 is worth all the time and labor. I'd go straight for the 2JZ-GTE (turbo version). If you have a 4 cylinder, the 2JZ-GE would be a very worthwhile swap.

If it were emissions legal to put the 7M-GTE (older turbo Supra motor) into my V6 pickup, it would be done by now.

I'd like to see what you guys come up with. If you have any 7M or 2JZ related questions, just ask...

 

The thing is, we're not sure if a 2nd Gen can handle the HP/Torque of a 2JZ-GTE without serious modification of other parts. There would most likely be ALOT of broken parts if you went with the Twin Turbo. Plus, with the money saved by getting the N/A 2JZ-GE instead, you can upgrade it easily to whatever level you chose.

Dave

 

I don't want to sound like I'm slamming the 2JZ-GE, it's one of my favorite engines Toyotas has ever produced (the GTE is my favorite). If you have any doubts about the GE engine, read this article.

Keep in mind that Supras use an IRS version of the 8" diff and I've seen plenty of 800 hp Supras doing rev-launches at the track, so the drivetrain strength is likely already there. The 8" e-locking diff has larger bearings than the standard diff and is rumored to be 20% stronger than the diffs used in the supras and pickups/4runners.

 

Cool a post like this is awsome!!

If the 2jz-gte was done, driveline modifications would be what?

Just how much hp and torque can the stock auto and manual transmissions handle on our 2nd gens? Transfer cases as well?




paddlenbike - the E-locker is a 3rd gen toy....grrrrr I WANT one! LoL.

 

i have been wanting to do the 7MGTE swap for about a year now... i've been saving up a little for such a swap. perhaps the naturally aspirated one and throw a supercharger on it!

sounds good to me.

 

wow, i go out of town on vacation and my thread gets a sticky


im glad to see lots of interest in this project so far

 

Is this swap possible to do with auto or is a change to manual necessary? I would prefer the manual but $$ may restrict it.

 

i have a manual so thats all im really familiar with at this point. when it comes time to start actually working on putting any sort of kit together is when answers to that will start being researched. but as a preliminary and logical guess i would say its extremely likely an auto is just fine, but i agree with the desire for a manual, i love mine.

 

Well i just killed my engine today, spun the bearings im thinking, so its done, and now im forced to either sell, or swap or rebuild. Always thought, when my runner finally dies at like 200k+, i'll swap a engine, but i guess its an option of now! So I am definitely down with this idea, soon, or if not, help with one. How much does this sorta thing cost? whats needed? This could definitely happen if i get enough info.

Im all for your idea!

Steve

 

sorry to hear about that, if you could wait a few months we may be able to help you with an engine swap, but for now id say your most effiecient bet would be to try and fix the engine, if possible

 

I would definitely be interested but only at a lower pricepoint.

I've got a '95 5-spd 3.0, and have been looking into the 7MGE swap as an eventual option, since the tranny should mate right up. I hadn't realized there was legislation in the way, but it budgetted out to about $2000 (assuming a $650 7M found within driving distance), even factoring in pro help that I'll inevitably need for some of it.

Given that, I probably wouldn't want to go above $2500 total cost for kit + engine + any labor I can't do at home. I guess that's probably unreasonable if you guys want to make some cash on the deal.

 

always glad to see interest in our project, when it starts coming together we'll be able to give out more info on how much money it will end up costing to do so keep an eye out later this year. ill post as much info as i can as i learn about some of the finer details. for reference i foung the 2jzge engine locally for about 1300. if anyone from other places could look around and see what engines are running for near them that would help us see more about what this will end up costing. when i looked on ebay there were some engine importers wanting over 3 grand just for the engine ! they had some some minor rebuilding and had guaruntees on them blah blah. . but that seems a little high to me. obviously they arent in it for charity, few people are. the engine i looked at had a 30 day warranty which is pretty much mandatory before id buy it from anywhere

about putting the older engine in, im not 100% sure what the law states or how strictly its enforced but that also will be researched in more detail soon

 

I believe they are State Laws and not every state requires it. In NC however, strict automobile laws and frequent inspections eliminate it as an option to any in-state customers.

 

As far as swaps in states like NC I don't think it would be a problem. Usually if you put a newer engine in your car than the year of the car its OK. Plus the mileage and probably emissions of the 2JZ must be better than the 3.0. I don't think the average mechanic will know the engine isn't the right one anyway. Where I am in NC, the mechanics just check vehicle condition, and safety equipment etc. then slap a new sticker on the window.

 

yea, i agree that it wouldnt be that hard to sneak by if you really wanted to do the older engine but the 2jz is worth the extra dough, IMO. i have really dark tint on my windows, so if they checked it wont pass. . . but it only applies to the front windows so i just put them down when i go for inspection and they never even notice . . . slackers