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Old 10-24-2003 | 01:04 PM
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15x7 or 15x8?

Alright guys,

I am getting ready to order some Tech1 Rock Crawlers from www.4wheelparts.com!

All I need to know is:

I would like to be able to go up to 33x12.50's...what size wheel would I need to do that? The only dilemma is that right now I have 31x10.50's so I will also need something that will be able to fit those well too.

Also, what is the stock offset? I want the wheels to stick out farther so I am going with the 3.75" backspacing. Now I'm just guessing on that cause I don't know what the stock backspacing was for the '95.

I have the part number that I am looking on 4Wheel Parts so you guys can double check it: TEC51-58

That is for the 15x8 one...lemme know if that will work with my current setup.

Thanks guys!

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Old 10-24-2003 | 01:13 PM
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Old 10-24-2003 | 01:17 PM
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15x7 is too narrow for 12.5's - you'll get funny tire wear.

I just got some MT Classic II's that are 3 5/16 BS. With 33's they should fill up my wheelwell and bushwackers nicely...
Old 10-24-2003 | 01:18 PM
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Chris,

Why not go up to 16"x8" while you are at it? Just do that and keep your other tires on your current rims and sell them to make up for the new ones. I think the OEM rims on your Runner are probably in the neighborhood of 4.375" backspacking like the 3rd genners so the closer to that the less issues you'll have with rubbing.

Good choice in the Tech1 Rockcrawlers! I can't wait to be all black, my rig that is...



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Old 10-24-2003 | 01:47 PM
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I will have hard time selling this setup around here...not a very big market for this kinda stuff.

If I were to go with the backspacing that I have set at now (3.75) will there be a big rubbing issue? I want the wheels to stick out a good bit and I am hoping that I won't rub too much...what do you think will happen if I go wth the 3.75" backspacing?

Thanks for the replies guys...keep em comin!!

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Old 10-24-2003 | 01:48 PM
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Stock BS should be 4.75"

I have 33x12.5's on 15x8's with 4" BS. They fit perfect in my 95.

If you use 15x7's, then you need to watch pressure so the tires don't crown and wear only the center as Mike said.
Old 10-24-2003 | 04:25 PM
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Re: Wheels

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Chris,

Why not go up to 16"x8" while you are at it? Just do that and keep your other tires on your current rims and sell them to make up for the new ones. I think the OEM rims on your Runner are probably in the neighborhood of 4.375" backspacking like the 3rd genners so the closer to that the less issues you'll have with rubbing.
I think the stock BS on 15x7's on 2nd Gens is around 3 7/8". 4 3/8" BS may give you interference on the A-Arm thingamagiggies. Adrian runs 4" BS without any issues

Upgrading from 15's to 16's? Seems odd to recommend this since alot of folks with 16's are trying to make 15's fit. Cheaper tires and wheels and bigger footprint when aired down - did I mention cheaper?
Old 10-24-2003 | 05:40 PM
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Re: Re: Wheels

Originally posted by Cebby
I think the stock BS on 15x7's on 2nd Gens is around 3 7/8". 4 3/8" BS may give you interference on the A-Arm thingamagiggies. Adrian runs 4" BS without any issues

Upgrading from 15's to 16's? Seems odd to recommend this since alot of folks with 16's are trying to make 15's fit. Cheaper tires and wheels and bigger footprint when aired down - did I mention cheaper?
However, he can go with 285/75/16's and stay with a 16x7 wheel if he wants instead of the 16x8. They're not quite as wide as the 33x12's but IMHO they look much better. But then again, I'm not a fan of tires that stick out past the fenderwell. They may look good, but if you do any serious wheelin' then you'll find too many scratches down the side of your truck from all the rocks you'll be slinging...

Again, just my opinion...
Old 10-24-2003 | 05:46 PM
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In this wheel diameter, the costs and benefits associated with using a 16" wheel are pretty heavily favoring the 15.

Wider selection of cheaper tires, number 1.

More side wall, number 2.

You're right, the wheeling that I do with my tires and rims beyond the fenders and the width that I gained from doing so is all foolish.
Old 10-24-2003 | 09:09 PM
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I'm probably never going to be doing as serious wheeling as some of the guys on here...the wider look would be mostly for...well...a wider look! Is there anyway somebody could get me the part number of the wheel on www.4wheelparts.com so I know exactly what I should get. Thanks!

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Old 10-26-2003 | 09:44 AM
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I have decided on 15x8's but I need to know backspacing. How far out will a wheel that has 3.75" backspacing stick out? I just want something that sticks out a little. Nothing severe.

If it's possible an answer before too late tonight would be appreciated since 4wheelparts.com is having a Free Shipping deal until tonight at midnight.

Thanks guys!

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Old 10-26-2003 | 08:06 PM
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ROCK CRAWLERS HAVE BEEN ORDERED!!! They should be here this coming week!

I'll keep you posted!

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Thanks for all the help/advice,

Old 10-27-2003 | 06:52 AM
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So...

Originally posted by 4x4Fink
ROCK CRAWLERS HAVE BEEN ORDERED!!! They should be here this coming week!

I'll keep you posted!

Fink

Thanks for all the help/advice,

Fink,

What did you finally order, the 15x8s? What bs were they? You get (5) or (4)? I got (5) for $350.



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Old 10-27-2003 | 08:18 AM
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What do you plan to do with the stock rims?
Old 10-27-2003 | 12:03 PM
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Went with 15x8" 6 on 5.5 w/3.5" backspacing...that is what Flygtenstein recommended.

I will probably end up keeping the stock rims unless makes me an offer to buy them...you interested KING? Make me an offer and we'll see what happens...I have to wait until the crawlers come in and make sure they work first and then I will be willing to sell em.

I am hoping that they will be in this week...I will probably end up going to some place here locally and get some black lug nuts.

I'll let ya know what happens with em!

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Old 10-27-2003 | 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by 4x4Fink
I will probably end up going to some place here locally and get some black lug nuts.
Mine just came form Wheelers today with a set of black "gorilla locks". I like the contrast of the black with my alum. MT's.

BTW, I tried to reply to you PM, but your box was full again (that makes 3 times now )
Old 10-27-2003 | 12:28 PM
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Sorry bout that Ceb, I guess I didn't see the e-mail me.

It's empty now...

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Old 10-27-2003 | 12:35 PM
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What would I need to fit 33x12.50's on my rig? I am thinking just a 1" body lift. I would definately end up going Roger Brown...how much would that cost? I just hope I can find a place around here that is able to do that...hmm...

So pretty much, what would I need to do in order to fit 33x12.50's without rubbing? They will be running on those new wheels that I just ordered.

Thanks fellas!

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Old 10-27-2003 | 12:57 PM
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you can get a 2" or 3" performace accessories body lift from rocky mountain suspension (rockymountainsusp.com) for around $75-$100, or you can call summit and they will match prices and can usually be to you in around 2 days or so. the 3" is kinda bad bacause it shows all of your frame.
Old 10-27-2003 | 01:04 PM
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Here's what I've been told:

1. Roger Brown 1" BL
2. Pound flat or grind down the pinch weld at the rear of the front wheelwell and "rework" the liner.
3. Some sort of lift coil in the rear (which I see you have)

I'm doing the same currently - the BL went on Saturday night, MT Classic II's are in my garage and BFG Mud 33's have been ordered. I'm a little concerned about interference with my Bushwackers due to the backspacing, but I think I'll be able to "clearance" them as needed. The MT's are 3 3/8" BS (measured this AM), so we're only 1/8" different in our setup.

You can definitely due the BL yourself. I used an impact wrench to get my body bolts off, but I'm in the rust belt. All you need is a floor jack and some wood blocks to lift the body. The rest is bolt on. No adjustment to the steering or shifters needed with the 1" BL. I left my front bumper at stock ht. since I have a grille guard (more trouble than its worth to move it)

The kit is around $95 shipped.



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