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Old 07-27-2004 | 09:48 AM
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101 Octane????

This morning as I was get a Lottery ticket (need to will that 6 million ) at a local Mobil gas station I saw then installing a pump for 101 octane!

That many people buy 101 octane??

I was wondering if 101 octane does anything to stock motor as far as horse power and or if it help the performance of the motor as well? Even with HP parts, how much horse power can you get from gas??
Old 07-27-2004 | 10:33 AM
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There is no sense in putting in 101 octane unless your engine requires it. It won't make any more power. Now if your engine requires something more than 101 and you put 101 in, not only can it damage/destroy your engine, you will lose power.
Old 07-27-2004 | 10:33 AM
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Why not read and understand what octane really means? Then the answer would be obvious.
Old 07-27-2004 | 10:36 AM
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A friend of mine suggested that I run higher octane before I go out wheeling....something about it resulting in a less chance of detonation.

Dunno if its true or not, dont flame me, its just what I've heard.
Old 07-27-2004 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 4RUNR
Why not read and understand what octane really means? Then the answer would be obvious.
How about you tell us "wise one"!
Old 07-27-2004 | 10:55 AM
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http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question90.htm

Best website for finding out this kind of info. I've learned sooo much there.
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Look at it like buying a rain coat.

Your going out in a light rain storm(regular car engine). All you need is a cheap $2 rain coat(cheap pump gas). You could spend $400 on a rain coat(high octane fuel), but it would do the exact same thing. Now let's say you are going out in a monsoon(high performance engine). That $2 coat(cheap pump gas) isn't going to do much, but the $400 one (high octane fuel) will (for the most part) because it's designed for it.
Old 07-27-2004 | 11:08 AM
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so i should shove a raincoat into my gas tank?

got it.
Old 07-27-2004 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by lee
so i should shove a raincoat into my gas tank?

got it.
Yep, make sure it has "Type R" on it. That adds at least 25 rwhp!!!
Old 07-27-2004 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by oly884
Look at it like buying a rain coat.

Your going out in a light rain storm(regular car engine). All you need is a cheap $2 rain coat(cheap pump gas). You could spend $400 on a rain coat(high octane fuel), but it would do the exact same thing. Now let's say you are going out in a monsoon(high performance engine). That $2 coat(cheap pump gas) isn't going to do much, but the $400 one (high octane fuel) will (for the most part) because it's designed for it.
Well said!!!!
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The 101 octane fuel will mostly be used by domestics/imports with upgraded turbos/SC's etc.

For example, when I had my Audi A4, I had APR's Stage 3 turbo upgrade and the ECU was re-programmed for different octane levels. My ECU had 91, 93, 100, and 104 that I could switch from. Basically, the higher octane, the more advanced the timing was.

And you could definately feel the changes between octane, I got about 40+ more horses when running 100 compared to 91. It's amazing what an engine can do when prgrammed to take advantage of the extra octane.

But like what oly884 said, there's no reason to use it unless your car can take advantage of it. Ours can't.

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Old 07-27-2004 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by unr.frosh
The 101 octane fuel will mostly be used by domestics/imports with upgraded turbos/SC's etc.

For example, when I had my Audi A4, I had APR's Stage 3 turbo upgrade and the ECU was re-programmed for different octane levels. My ECU had 91, 93, 100, and 104 that I could switch from. Basically, the higher octane, the more advanced the timing was.

And you could definately feel the changes between octane, I got about 40+ more horses when running 100 compared to 91. It's amazing what an engine can do when prgrammed to take advantage of the extra octane.

But like what oly884 said, there's no reason to use it unless your car can take advantage of it. Ours can't.
I don't if you can answer this but........I am running nitrous with different cam's and a SAFC II. Would 101 be any different then 92 for me????
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Or would it depend on the SAFC II setting's?
Old 07-27-2004 | 11:22 AM
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In theory, if your S-AFC II allows mutiple spark and fuel maps, the 101 would be beneficial. You could run more NOS w/ less chance of detonation... 101 isn't inherently BAD for a motor... you can run 93 in a car designed for 87 just like you can run 101 in a car designed for 93.

Where it's really helpful is in high compression motors, either NA or forced induction.

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Originally Posted by NX Tacoma
I don't if you can answer this but........I am running nitrous with different cam's and a SAFC II. Would 101 be any different then 92 for me????
I don't think it would make any noticeable improvement. If I recall correctly, with the SAFC II you can really only minimally adjust the amount of fuel by the fuel curves. Other than that it is more of a monitor for various things. Correct me if I'm wrong.

To take advantage of higher octane timing, etc. really needs to be advanced along with fuel curves and that's where the gains come from.

But it couldn't hurt to have higher octane gas in the tank when your going to spray to prevent running lean and damaging the engine.
Old 07-27-2004 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by NX Tacoma
Or would it depend on the SAFC II setting's?
When using Nitrous use the most octane you can get, never use leaded gas though. I've used leaded gas in fuel injected vehicles. Most people think they won't run with it... oh yes they will... and they run quite well with it for a while... but then your o2's sensors will fail. Nothing like the smell of leaded gas burning through a totally catless exhaust though.. smells SOOOOOO SWEET.
Old 07-27-2004 | 11:37 AM
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On my lunch break since my gas tank is half full(or half empty) I will fill the rest of my my tank with 101!

Good idea, ya;na?!


Nice smell Kenandjenn!!!!!
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Old 07-27-2004 | 11:43 AM
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