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Old 03-19-2012, 08:23 PM
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https://www.yotatech.com/profile.php?do=editsignature and add the text from the quote reply.

You might have too many characters in your current sig though.
Old 03-20-2012, 05:48 AM
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On a side note, I am going to have to get a radiator this week. The one in mine is officially shot. Had temp creeping again while climbing hills during my off-road trip the other weekend, and on Sunday on a drive to a friends house. It can still be a possible bad fan clutch, but I doubt it. While it's not an OEM part, the one that's on there now is less then two years old. And the only thing that helps is turning the heater on. Alot of fins are missing in this thing and I am surprised it's not leaking yet.

I am going with a 3vz radiator without a doubt and would prefer buying a new one and not yanking one from a junk yard.

AUTOZONE has one for like $150 ish with a lifetime warranty on it. I don't know how many rows (probably two) and it has plastic sides.

Radiator Barn's is $220-240 ish. They have two listed and I know one if for the 2wd runners, but they don't mention which one is which. I don't really want to spend that much on it, even though it's a 3 row radiator. Doesn't say if it's aluminum or steel, only says metal core and sides.
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This is the one I was thinking of getting
Toyota Fiberglass also sells a similar one

We have the an EXCELLENT rad that will work perfect with extra cooling https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f229...ap-rad-249534/ all pricing and specs on that thread ..

thinking about ordering a radiator... 3 row and all metal are the highlights

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4WD, Gasoline Engine, NON-TURBO

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Core Size: 16-3/4 X 20-11/16 X 2-1/16
Inlet Header: 20-1/8 X 2-3/16
Outlet Header: 20-1/8 X 2-3/16
Inlet Connection: TOP 1-3/8 PASSENGERS SIDE
Outlet Connection: BOTTOM 1-3/8 DRIVERS SIDE
Transmission Oil Cooler: YES
Engine Oil Cooler: NONE
Mounting:
Notes: THREE ROW, ALL METAL
$222.20 1987 TOYOTA FOUR RUNNER radiator
$0.00 FREE Lifetime Warranty
$9.95 Shipping
$232.15 IS YOUR FINAL COST
Old 03-20-2012, 08:55 AM
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Yeah $230 seems a bit much for me to handle right now. Rad Barn's from what I can gather is actually a CSF radiator. I can get it for around $165 other places online, leading towards that.

Only issue I can see using the 3vz rad is I believe the 22r fan shroud won't work. I'll have to grab one from a junk yard.

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Old 03-20-2012, 09:18 AM
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it is a csf rad. or at least, that's what paperwork/box came with mine
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Did you get the one for the 4cyl or did you switch to the 3.0 rad? There is a few levels of this CSF rad though one of which matches the prices that radiator barn has. The more I look into them the more confused I get. lol.
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Dang, another purchase needed, eh? Best wishes on the 'cheapest/best quality' hunt, B
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that one ^^

here's what i got from their site:


OPTION 3: 4WD, Manual Transmission Only, Gas Engine Only, HEAVY DUTY

Specifications
Core Size: 15-3/4 X 20-11/16 X 2-1/16
Inlet Header: 20-1/8 X 2-3/16
Outlet Header: 20-1/8 X 2-3/16
Inlet Connection: TOP 1-3/8 PASSENGERS SIDE
Outlet Connection: BOTTOM 1-3/8 DRIVERS SIDE
Transmission Oil Cooler: YES
Engine Oil Cooler: NONE
Mounting:
Notes: THREE ROW, ALL METAL
$209.32 1993 TOYOTA PICKUP radiator
$0.00 FREE Lifetime Warranty
$9.95 Shipping
$219.27 IS YOUR FINAL COST
which is actually an inch shorter than the 22r-e automatic one:


OPTION 1: 4WD, Automatic Transmission Only, Gas Engine Only

Core Size: 16-3/4 X 20-11/16 X 2-1/16
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Originally Posted by xxxtreme22r
https://www.yotatech.com/profile.php?do=editsignature and add the text from the quote reply.

You might have too many characters in your current sig though.

Thanks, and you may be right, part of my sig is getting ready to be scrapped though, so that'll free up some space

Wow, it actually fit...

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Old 03-20-2012, 11:13 AM
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Thanks Ian, looks like you got one for the 4cyl then not the v6.

OPTION 1: CSF 2056

4WD, Gasoline Engine


Specifications
Core Size: 18-11/16 X 20-11/16 X 2-1/16
Inlet Header: 20-1/8 X 2-3/16
Outlet Header: 20-1/8 X 2-3/16
Inlet Connection: 1-3/8 PASSENGERS SIDE
Outlet Connection: 1-3/8 DRIVERS SIDE
Transmission Oil Cooler: YES
Engine Oil Cooler: NONE
Mounting: DOUBLE FLANGE
Notes: THREE ROW, ALL METAL
$233.47 1989 TOYOTA FOUR RUNNER radiator
$0.00 FREE Lifetime Warranty
$9.95 Shipping
$243.42 IS YOUR FINAL COST
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yup. i didn't think of getting the v6 one when i ordered. it would have fit just fine.

but the one i have now works plenty well for what i need, and i know you need all the surface area you can get. where else is the mud supposed to collect?
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I think I settled on this one, it's the cheapest I can find. Radiator Barn's has this same rad for $243 shipped.

This one is $177.85 Shipped. I've ordered BMW from these guys before. Seemed to be ok to deal with.

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sk...L/CSF2056.html
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Hey Brandon, .......

I ordered my tail light covers from them and they are GREAT quality and came in 2 days.... Hopefully........ you'll experience the same. Best wishes on the MOD for fitting the fan shroud/A fan shroud of some kind.
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you don't really need a shroud. i ran without one in the summer, and i was fine (a/c on, 90-something degree days)

plus, with the amount of mudding he does, i would think a shroud would collect a bunch of mud
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who knows, Maybe I will attempt to build my own. Hit a snag in finances though gr......
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hmmmm Mixed reviews on ebay for this seller. Mostly positive though. I wonder if anyone on here had gotten one of these.

$94.83 shipped but it's only a 2-row rad. Might be fine though.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Row-w-o-EO...item43adf8b72b

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I think shrouds definitely aid in cooling/less work for fan clutch, etc. (I know, you're e-faning it, Ian, lol... But the E-fans actually have a shroud of their own)... But I've also had a rig without one. I did find, without one, in Summer, in the 110*F weather of Kern river area..... it was getting hotter. I went on that trip w/out it cuz mine was just tore up, lol. I couldn't bolt the corners up due to tearing of the eyelets... so I pulled it before the trip. It did almost become an issue. However.... you're not dealing with 110*F, .... so yeah, lol.

I do think it also protects the blades from flying debris???

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i didn't have a shroud with my clutch fan over that summer. the e-fan wasn't until a few months later:

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Yeah my BMW doesn't have one on it either. It got damaged when I put a new on in that when we first bought it. Haven't had any issues, but that thing don't see high rpm & low speed at the same time. Which is what conditions I am gonna need it for. I think a shroud is gonna be the best for me.

I think this ebay one is a Silla through my research. Just need input on someone running this same one.
Right now that $178 one just isn't gonna fit the budget.
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Originally Posted by xxxtreme22r
Yeah my BMW doesn't have one on it either. It got damaged when I put a new on in that when we first bought it. Haven't had any issues, but that thing don't see high rpm & low speed at the same time. Which is what conditions I am gonna need it for. I think a shroud is gonna be the best for me.

I think this ebay one is a Silla through my research. Just need input on someone running this same one.
Right now that $178 one just isn't gonna fit the budget.
I hear ya.... And I remembered; When I ran my 86 4Runner without it, just weeks before on the same trip to Mt. Whitney(I went again, I'll explain, below), I had issues. Mt. Whitney is at 14,490Ft., and the road up there is from like 2500Ft. at the base. It is the 11th tallest Mountains in the Continental US.... On the HWY, I didn't notice much difference w/out it, ...but then on the way up that GNARLY hill, up and down from 1st and 2nd gear, rarely into 3rd, it was NOT liking that, lol. On the way down, less issues(but the brakes were RED HOT, lol).... We also hit the Owens Dry Lake Adjacent Dunes, OHV.... and cruising through the FINE talc sands, up and down.... I had a near overheat there, too. It was almost as if the air was so hot it was sucking any forced air away from it's job. I got home and found one at Japanese Truck Dismantlers and weeks later, taking the same trip, same parts... no issues on those more extreme conditions.

Again, I wouldn't run without one anyhow, since I've seen fan blade carnage on other vehicles that didn't have a shroud.

NOT EVEN trying to say "it's WRONG not to have one!!!!", lol.... Just sharing my experiences, Ian, ya know? BTW, ...is everything running perfectly now with that E-fan? Someone offered me one off an Explorer(I think) that they had in there 88 V6 4Runner... Just curious... I will probably grab it anyhow, for later install.


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