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Old 11-29-2013 | 07:32 AM
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Hahaha, I hear ya,....but no Thanks! Lol....

Nice write ups! Love the finish nails trick! I've done things that are similar for other "lining up" projects.
Old 11-29-2013 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Terrys87

Also a friend sent me a marker for the mudflaps. I plan on getting them covered in white. I did a test on one of my old ones and I think it is going to look great.
Ahhh thanks for this pic man. This is perfect. That is exactly what I need to redo my rear mud flaps lol. Thank you.

Hey the white truck is coming out nicely. I like your idea on those black corner pieces. I know those can fall off a lot and many people don't think to fix them like you did very smart idea terry.
Old 12-02-2013 | 05:28 PM
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I'll have to try the cloth trick on the window handles....always heard of it, just never knew exactly how to do it lol... I always just kept fiddling with it with this little bitty flat screwdriver I have until the clip comes off.
Keep up the awesome ideas/tips/everything!
Old 12-06-2013 | 01:31 AM
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Hello mark... I am high tech here in somethings,lol but it works for me. I can read a tape measure and still the measurements just dont come out when I go to transfer them.

Thanks Richard... I have a few of the end caps on the road so I wanted to come up with a fix for that. One was a new one and it didnt stay on long, for a few months. With the bolts, they can take alot of abuse now.

Your Welcome dakotawho...Sometimes I forget some of the little tips and tricks so I try to post them as a reminder for myself as well.
Old 12-06-2013 | 01:42 AM
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Got my trucks into the 2014 Calendar, https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f121...elease-275657/ Wahoo!!! Now I have a goal of getting my 85 truck in next years calendar. I am putting it on the back burner til spring as it is donating it motor to Mistys truck and I will rebuild her old motor this winter. I have a complete rebuild kit for it so I wont be that much into the rebuild and besides I know how good her motor is, just needs rings, but I will go thru it and put it in the 85. The 85 is still giving me troubles on getting fire to the coil and I will eventually get it figure out. Got a few home projects that we want to get wrapped up and then I will move it back on the list.

Once I get the motor rebuilt for it and then get back on the wiring issue taken care of, I should be able to have it looking good and done in time for next years calendar. Mrs Hotrod wants her Runner going as quick as it used to. She has been get antsy about getting it running like it should. It does great on the flat, but hit a hill and you have to start shifting down. Noooo compression. 313k miles on it is catching up with it.
Old 12-06-2013 | 01:58 AM
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The 86 extracab is a 22r. I will be converting it to a 22re. I am currently cleaning the fuel tank and fuel lines and this weekend I will start cleaning the intake, fuel system and sensors. I will post the steps on here and later start a build thread on the 86 showing all the steps from where it was to where it is now. I want to show all of the steps to convert one from 22r to 22re. I plan on using that thread to show a complete rebuild of a 22r motor as well. I will show the steps of the body work it went thru.

Here is the motor that I will be pulling the parts off of. It is locked up. Even though it is a junk motor. It is great for having extra parts and I keep the bolts in a motor when possible. A junk motor can be a great reference as well.

Also I do want to try and experimenting with this motor. I have Mistys old motor and another running motor in the works so no intentions of rebuilding this one. I go thru other restore sites on any old cars and trucks and one thing I learned and agree with is when a motor has been sitting for a long period of time, is to not try and see how fast you can get it started. It is tempting, but from my own experience, I have done that and then a month or two later, the motor will start smoking. What happens is the rings are rusted to the cylinders and the starter is strong enough to break the rust.

I have been into motors and you could see where the rusted rings damged the walls. On a Chevy restore site, I learned some have been seized and then with soaking the cylinders with Marvel Mystery Oil and letting soak a week or two and then turning the crankshaft with a breaker bar, and soaking again, some motors have been saved that way.

Kind of wanting to see if I get the same results. This motor is locked up tightttt. Even junk motors make great test platforms and references. I have tons of spare nuts and bolts, but I do like to keep them in motors when I can. You can see where someone didnt connect the water pipe back to the head when it was worked on previously.
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Old 12-06-2013 | 03:48 AM
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Interesting!! Also i heard brake fluid works good for breaking the rust as well
Old 12-06-2013 | 07:05 AM
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aww on the froze motor but its in good hands one way or another

CONGRATS on making the calender! terrry claps an cheers!
Old 12-06-2013 | 09:03 AM
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Gratz on the calendar!
Old 12-07-2013 | 12:24 AM
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Hello kornhuskerwizard...I hadnt heard of brake fluid but cant see why it wouldnt work.

Thanks cyberhorn... I am curious to see if I can get it to break free and see what compression is like on it.

Thanks bbrideau..From where my trucks came from to what they are, I am really pleased with them. To make the calendar was a reward. Now I have a goal to get my truck done for next year.
Old 12-07-2013 | 12:36 AM
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This is leading up into a 22r swap to a 22re. I am cleaning the Intake and all sensors. Some of this I have posted in my threads but I will post again. Might be a few tips in here.

Here is the Plenum. The Sensor on the far left is the Cold Start Injector Timing Switch. This is the only sensor I have ever had to fail me and that has been twice. A friend of mine truck wouldnt start in the cold and he didnt know why. I looked at it and could tell it was broken. I told him where there was on in the boneyard and he wanted to get a new one. Once he priced a new one online at $170, he went to the bone yard and got one for $25. These are the ones to grab when you get a chance. I will run a resistance check on this one tomorrow.

The center one is the Cold Start Injector. I have never had one of these to fail. Usually need a good cleaning from the carbon from the EGR. Anytime I break the connection loose on the fuel line to this Injector, when I first start a truck up, it is the first thing I check as if it is leaking it will spray fuel everywhere and ALOT!!!

The far right hose connector is usually clogged with carbon as well. This also one you want to grab from the boneyard as it is the one you can use to do the Diff Breather Extention.
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I keep the hoses connected to the rails. The two that are not hooked up go to the EGR and they are different size so you cant get that mixed up.
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Old 12-07-2013 | 12:43 AM
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Here is the Plenumfull of carbon. I am going to try and see how oven cleaner works on it. I have heard that it works good. Usually I take it to the carwash and spray it out but it is 10 degrees here.
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The black sensor is the Throttle Postion Sensor. I take this one off when I am taking the Plenum to the carwash. This is one sensor that I do not remove as I hear it is a bear to get reset. If I ever had to replace it, I would just use the whole front section of the Plenum with the butterfly assembly. You can see how bad the back side is. Somewhat of an idea of how bad inside the Plenum is.
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Old 12-07-2013 | 12:48 AM
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May look like a hackjob, but getting the Allen bolt that holds the intake to the head has always stripped out on me when using just an Allen Wrench. I always break it loose with a pair of Vise Grips then pull it out with an Allen Wrench. It is in so tight that I have never had one to come out without stripping using just the Allen wrench.
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This hose on the bottom of the intake is out of sight and out of mind and tends to get forgotten about. You can see here it is bulging and could pop a whole at any minute. I also use a wire brush to get the shiney look back to the intake and plenum.
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Old 12-07-2013 | 01:15 AM
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I use a finishing nail or a jewelers flatblade screwdriver to lift the edge of the corner of the wire and then work it around to loosen the connector from the sensor.
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Reason I say this is the PO that has worked on this motor has ruined alot of the connectors. A lot of salvages just cut this Injector harness to remove a motor. The harness can be removed from the computer and slid thru the firewall.

I am going on the hunt for an 85 or 86 Injector Harness. An 87 harness has the same connectors but the 85 and 86 has an extra wire that connects to the water pump.
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Old 12-07-2013 | 01:34 AM
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The sensor in my hand is what controls the temp guage on the dash and is located between cylinders #2 and #3. I have had temp guages just go straight to hot when the truck has sat over nite. The sensor gets alot of hard water build up on it and just needs a good cleaning when that happens. Also showing the allen bolt just has a slight scar on it when I removed it with vise grips. The other sensors I cleaned with a brass tooth brush. The hoses that are good, I cleaned with a brillo pad. Most of these hoses can only be gotten from Toyota which can be expensive. When I find good hoses in the bone yard I grab 'em.
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I got the intake soaking and will clean it with oven cleaner to get all of the carbon out. Use on brush for the exterior of the intake and one for the interior. The carbon willl ruin a good brush. Also someone has used some non factory bolts. Another thing I load up on when in the boneyard. Keep the bolts in their proper holes makes it so much nicer when reassembling a motor or when putting a body back together.
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Old 12-07-2013 | 01:54 AM
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I just foundout why so many connectors were broken. Apparently someone has replaced an injector. 85-87 are white top connectors. This one has a black top connector and is apparently an aftermarket one as the 3 different types of injectors have different style connectors.

The one on the left is not factory.
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Old 12-07-2013 | 07:15 AM
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Scrub a dub dub! Time for a bath. Lookin good. Smart man for not disrupting the tps. will you be deleting the egr or keeping it?
Old 12-07-2013 | 09:21 AM
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careful with the easy off on the aluminum terry a good choice that will strip it all totally clean is aluminum wheel cleaner also have to keep an eye on it as their both acids but the wheel cleaner gets brake dust out an thats bad as carbon buildup
a baby bottle brush handle removed cucked into a drill with dish soap will get into the runners great!

are you gona fix the egr on that one too?

oh on the TPS scribe a pair of lines on it and the throttle body (before breaking it loose) to realign them easy as pie
its how i did mine to dip my body in berrymans when i cleaned up

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Old 12-07-2013 | 11:41 AM
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Hello kornhuskerwizard...Mark convinced me that EGR arent a bad thing. They do make a motor run cooler. I have been putting them back on lately. I still have Mistys blocked off but the way I block them, it would be easy enough to remove the block during the winter time then install it during the summer time.

These motors have 2-300k miles on them with the EGR. It does make a mess and alot of it is 20 plus years of neglect. I can take an entire Plenum off, take it to the carwash, and back on within an hour or so at the house.

Thanks cyberhorn...I was only going to put a light coat inside the plenum but will give your way a chance. I get that carbon in my fingers and it takes a while to get it out. The carwash does great but it is cold out here. Got down in the single digits last nite.

I need to quit being a chicken and mess with a TPS. I have a spare I think and I will practice on mine when it comes summer time. I know how to mess with feeler gauges and such, but I have seen where the TPS can cause problems. So far one problem I have never had.
Old 12-07-2013 | 11:48 AM
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Save any stuff you want to sandblast and powdercoat Terry and bring it up nex time you are on duty. We can even get some powder ahead of time if there is a specific color you want to do.

Its all gonna be in the basement and we will be warm.


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