This is the same thing i was thinking about. I'm sure he'll do a great job. and like you said i'll appriciate the bumper a lot more doing it this way. I've put tons of hard work into this project already. What's a bit more sweat and work right? lol Gotta take advantage of his offerings now that he is still young. I think he'll be turning 50 this year. And he has had diabetus for 1-1.5years so his health has been getting kept up but you know how that can really make you more tired and deterriorate your health over time. So yea i'm grasping on to moments like this when i can.

Dude Thank you for that link. You saved me a couple of bucks. I just ordered myself one. With S&H it came out to $125 Cant wait to get it already. I think this spindle wont be too bad. but for the price of that full kit... you cant beat it. I just hope it will be strong enough as that Monster one. This website doesnt go into detail on how big that spindle is. but i have seen a few threads use this same kit. So i'm sure itll be strong enough. *crossing fingers*

Totally agree, ended up buying the kit that Gizler posted up. My dad seems to like that ive been asking for his help with my truck lately. lol i can see him happy. and the funny faces he makes when he acts all goofy. ah haha good times.

I think the ones on those ebay links that i posted are much more heavy duty then the ones on this kit. but after all i am in debt atm moment paying off all my off road mods. lol only $1800 more to go hahaha. So i went with the cheaper one that he posted. Like i said before i have seen baout 2-3 people use this same kit. So i'm sure it'll be work it. who knows maybe i might still end up buying another latch anyway because i wanna make sure that tire carrier will be super secured on there.

Thanks Ocell. Put alot of money and hard work into it to get it to this point so it better look awesome huh haha

Hi Ed, Mark isnt too far away from catching up to me. I'm itching for another trip and i really want to have Mark come along with us to our next off road trip so we can all show those Heep owners how its really done with ease lol

If your steel supplier is the only one for miles around i'm sure he jacks up the price. Unfortunetly it's a monopoly for him. Out here in SoCal we have tons of competition. So i'm sure the prices will be much cheaper then what you paid. I have a few places in mind already. Today i asked the Forman who gave me the hard board material and i asked him if he knows what a good 4x6 plate metal goes for? he wasnt sure because the Steel guys are the ones that order that stuff. but he said he knows it can get really expensive. So i'm not looking forward to the cost of this. I wanna make sure how much i'll be spending on steel first. before i bite the bullet on building one because if it is cheaper to just buy the CBI one then i will definitely go that route instead. It will have everything i need in that kit. Minus the hardware for the swing away piece. But thats the whole reason why i bought that Tire carrier kit anyway. so i should be set now.

 

Hey Richard, yet another post of some links I just did was deleted... Arg! Lol. ..

Was just going to say that I don't mean to be discouraging I'm just letting you know that still is very pricey and that the reason some of these bumpers are so expensive is that they do tons of research in order to make sure that they can hold up from every angle and be DOT approved, rated for towing or not... Etc.

I was thinking about having the bumper that I have now done buy some guys I know but it ended up coming out to almost $200 in tubing alone, and then I would have to do lots of research for the mounting brackets for the frame, cross supports, and since I want mine to be towed rated it would have been extra as well for the hitch tube and seven sixteenths plate supports, so on. I guess part of the reason why Adam and all of those guys charge what seems to be a lot is because it's a lot of research and development and trial and error and then the actual cost for the steel is a little less to them which enables them to make some money off of them.

The plate shouldn't be too much compared to DOM tubing, so I'm sure you guys can figure it out... Just make sure you do lot of research on people that have applied certain carriers and pistons for swing out stuff... SoCal 85 even went through several trial and error periods, even when using some of the most heavy duty stuff, the violent talking and rocking of those hinge pieces, compounded by the weight that they are holding, .... I think he had to tweak it and change things up and reinforced things two or three times in order to get it right. In fact I think he might still even be messing with his.

Very cool if your pops and I'm sure he will have as much fun or more than you! Haha... It was fun hanging out with him in working that day . I'm very excited to see what you guys come up with... And I have an idea... I know that when you buy a bumper from CB I, they must send you instructions. I would be willing to bet that they come with dimensions and everything... Including angles and so forth. Just remember that the more solid ones are seemingly twice is heavy, like 4xlabs ..... And look at the prices of those damn things! Lol. I like the idea that they have though in that they put a hinge on either side of the bumper so that the tire carrier is on one side on a short arm and the jerry can and equipment holding assembly is on the other. I mean if you think about it, even at the minimum 10 gallons of water and gas is probably around 80 pounds including the cans...... That's more than the tire for sure, but when you combine them both including all of the weight of the arm and tire mount and metal included in the jerrycan assembly... Just the stuff resting on that hinge alone can be up to 200 pounds.

 

It's the plan to get into the 4x4 industry. It might take awhile but I'm stubborn. I got a job at Sensi Seeds in Amsterdam by going in every day for 5 weeks.

That was a funny job. Red light district coffee shop and museum. The museum had a plant exhibit which I had to tend to.


Yeah, 2 axle swaps, engine swap and air conditioning is the plan. I've done my time in sweaty or freezing ˟˟˟˟ holes I want climate control in my truck!

It's going to be a big job but having that spare frame is really going to be helpful.

Me and the missus plan on trying to save enough to tour Canada and America for 6 months before she drags me to Oz. Hopefully we can meet with the Cali crew here on Yotatech for some wheeling.

This is how I'm getting away with such a plan. If I over build it babe we'll be safer.

It is true though and she knows it. Also how I became a firearm owner. She's scared of bears in Canada like I am of sharks in Australia



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Just got off the phone with Nathan from CBI offroad to get a rough estimate on a total cost for me. To get their bumper.....

And well. In the end it might not be worth going with them. the DIY (do it yoyrself) bumpers aren't included in that $75 off any bumper deal for june. So towing might be out of the question fot towing another car. And that is a no no for me. I gotta be able to tow. Not only that but they don't offer any of the swing away bumper parts like I previously said. They only include the bumper itself. They don't include any of the tire carrier parts unless you buy a separate kit which costs a lot too. So just their DIY bumper alone with tax and s&h would have came out to approx $450ish. And I'd still need to buy material for the tire carrier swing away too.

So with that said I am just going to go ahead and make my own. $450 plus another chunk of cash for the tubing for the swing away part and the $125 kit I just bought is a bit much for my wallet.

I have confidence in my dads welds with that big 220 welder of his. I'm sure he'll be able to create something awesome. so that's that. The only way I'll stick with cbi is if the cost of that plate metal sheets costs more then $450. In which then ill just get theirs since its premade. And ill have my dad do some super dooper reinforcing of the tow hitch. Lol. Gotta get prices for sheet metal now.

 

Damn the budget demon.

 

Just removed the rear bumper. I'm thinking of possibly re using that tow hitch. but it does need to be moved up about 2". We'll see what we come out with. Also With the rear bumper and plastic sides off i was finally able to bend that mudflap bracket back some so it stops rubbing against my tire.

 

lookin good
if you were to move the hitch box up into the support yu'd gain like 6+ inches weld a plate over the top of the box an below it lots of support for it

 

Every time I see shots of your fenders I'm amazed at seeing no rust.

 

Will, i was planning on building the bumper off the tow hitch but i dont know about gaining 6" more i might gain about 3" of clearance by cutting it and shortening the drop length where it mounts on to my frame.

Thanks Man, I've recently taken a look at that "Show me your Rust Pix" thread and im amazed at how bad some of these trucks get. rusted holes and chuncks right off the frame lol All i gotta complain about is a bit of dirt, dry mud, and a few scratches lol
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Just a couple of quick measurements i took last minute before i finished up for the day. It isn't the greatest but this is just a rough draft. I'm sure i'm gonna change the design and the measurements might change a tad bit. The one thing that definitely needs to get altered is the height of that tow hitch. Definitely gonna wanna re use that so i can continue to tow stuff. Will probably cut off 2&3/4" - 3" and leave the hitch just 3/4 - 1" gap under the tailgate just to make sure it clears.





Mind you these were done in the last 15 min lol I'll probably have some better drawings tomorrow sketched out by hand. that's if all goes well.

 

Very coolio! Exciting bubba!

 

Hi Richard,
Good idea to raise the hitch. Are you planing to make swing-away spare holder? If not, may I suggest you see if possible to place it so you can have access to spare tire lift crank by running jack handle extension rod through the hitch opening? My after-market bumper blocks that access.

 

Hi Ray. I can't even use my crank spare tire holder under the truck anymore. 33/12.5 tires are much too big to store underneath lol but yes, to answer your question, i am gonna make this bumper to have the swing away tire carrier too. I already ordered the kit from EMS offroad to be able to build it. But before I get to the tire carrier I hace to first have the bumper to build off of. So that's why I'm making a few drawings of my design.

This is what I drew up today.

 

Fuel cells are pretty cheap.

I want to put one there in addition to a lower profile belly tank for long range trips.

 

for some weird reason i got this whole WW2 fighter squadron star wars thing

red 2 im heading into my rock run now dropping belly tanks

watch that big one on the left got some serious cross fire

 

Looks great. I'm liking the designs. Fuel cell would be bada$$

 

Just saw CBI offroad post this 3rd gen tire carrier bumper on facebook. Its really nice. This just gave me another idea. Only difference is i would be using plate instead of tube on the bottom part where the hitch is.

 

Hey Richard, this is why I like the 4xlabs stuff. .... Well at least that one that I showed you on that Land Cruiser?... It puts the tire almost completely over to the left to where it is not covering the brake light but right near it... Then there is plenty of room for the jerry cans on a separate swing out on the opposite side . I think some of the strongest ones swing down but I'm not sure if that's better or not for our for runners. remember to always include your truck tent in this schematic

 

By the way that bumper is bad ass!

 

 

Today I Swimmerboy posted up this picture of a rear bumper he bought by Relentless.


I liked the bumper so much I decided to look up more of their work. This is what I came across.




More of the style ill use for the sides of mine.


I like how this one had those reverse lights or just plain camping lights (whatever they are) integrated into the bumper. Note: what looks to be the stock tow hitch. I like this idea but dunno if I'd wanna lose 2" of clearance due to having the hitch there. Maybe if like to have the hith higher being covered by the license plate. And then maybe have the license plate somehow spring loaded to move up and down to access the hitch hole ya know what I mean?






Here is a design more of what I want here. This view gave me a lot more insight on how it's to be made.


I would like something more like the bumper in the picture above but i do like the idea of the 4xLabs bumper that Mark posted in the last post. I do like the idea of having 2 hinges. It makes more sense to build a tire carrier this way to lesson the heavy load on the spindle(s). This way I can have one spindle dedicated to my heavy tire and the other one dedicated to a Hy-Lift and 1 or 2 Jerry cans for gas and water.

Idk yet. I am not certain how to do ot just yet. But this type does look a lot easier to build vs the CBI one that I was looking at. I think I like these ones much better. And also the corners of the bumper look much easier. All it looks like is a bunch of different sized triangles put together to make the corners to ot can continue to the sides.

Definitely happy I looked this brand up.