RBx 1988 4Runner Build-Up Thread
08-27-2013, 07:02 AM
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Not sure yet, toss up between the KM2 or GoodYear MTR. I'd rather the MTR because of its road manners, but I have read about balance issues folks have had in the past(OCDropzone especially). Haven't decided yet.
08-27-2013, 07:26 AM
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I read lots of people that love the MTR, and some that have the balance issue....speculation is that the Load C rating is lite for a rig, not driving the truck often and small 15" rim size seems to contribute to the balance issues i have read about.
08-27-2013, 08:10 AM
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I was wrong Ian, they both show a load rating of D....maybe they changed it...OR I don't read too good....probably the latter. I swear, I was reading on the Heep forums about guys complaining that the 'C' rating is too lite for the heavy JK. Both the KM2 and the MTR are rated at 3195lbs.
08-27-2013, 09:04 AM
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I can't get the BirdDog in 3.5" BS, and 17" tires are still a bit more $$ then the 16"ers. I'm still looking and researching.
Regarding the MTRs, the reviews on the tire rack have guys complaining about the tires wearing out quicker then expected. I drive my truck alot, might have to rethink the tire options.
Regarding the MTRs, the reviews on the tire rack have guys complaining about the tires wearing out quicker then expected. I drive my truck alot, might have to rethink the tire options.
08-28-2013, 11:13 AM
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thanks for the feedback on the compressor RBx. lovin the suspension picks, keep up the good work.
i have old style mtr's and love them but my next set will be km2's. i've heard too many horror stories about balancing the new mtr's. thats my 2 cents
i have old style mtr's and love them but my next set will be km2's. i've heard too many horror stories about balancing the new mtr's. thats my 2 cents
08-28-2013, 11:21 AM
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I've heard stories also about the MTRs, but I've heard great things about them. The only bad stuff I've heard about the KM2 is the low traction in the rain. That will not do. We get fair amount of rain here, not like the PNW. So that is an important factor, and we have sharp rocks out here...ask me how I know....actually don't you can see the carnage on my tires for sale page.
08-29-2013, 11:30 AM
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RBX dig the work you have been doing, has giving me more ideas than I needed.haha
As for the tires, not a rubber expert, the one thing that has been brought up in my area is better wet traction for the MTRs. Had a couple of friends locally with narrow rims have problems with balancing them, but loved everything else about them. Don't run them for what I use my runner for, so no personal experience. Good luck on the choice.
As for the tires, not a rubber expert, the one thing that has been brought up in my area is better wet traction for the MTRs. Had a couple of friends locally with narrow rims have problems with balancing them, but loved everything else about them. Don't run them for what I use my runner for, so no personal experience. Good luck on the choice.
08-30-2013, 12:55 AM
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My pleasure! I comment and have commented to so many regarding your rig its not even funny! and no, not just because its red and has the same striping as mine! lol
you have done some amazing things to that rig and you should be proud! I've gotten so many ideas and input and solutions from you and I'm very grateful. there are a couple things that I've been wanting to do but have put off, basically because I'm still doing research on what is the best product to use,.... but your placement of those things has me chocked full of a few ideas......
I definitely need a compressor and I'm trying to think of a way, since I do not have air lockers, to do a quick mount and dismount set up off of my roll bar or something of the sort. I sleep just fine back there with my hi-lift mounted, so I was thinking that I could weld a little plate to the 45 degree angle portion of the roll bar for mounting a compressor firmly. this way it could be at least a little bit more towards the center of the rig for airing up and down. you have any thoughts on those? I can't seem to find a single thread that isn't just yet another flurry of arguments. from talking to Eric and a couple other professionals that run shops, it appears that ARB has worked out some pretty serious problems with they had with frying units. people would crank them up for a couple uses and then poof! then I heard mostly good things about the Smittybilt compressors and that they had learned from other manufactures mistakes and upgraded certain parts... and then I heard both of them were crap and that I should go for the same brand as my home compressor, the Campbell˟Hausfeld.... I haven't even looked into it but I wasn't sure they even made those smaller units for mobile capabilities.
I also want a serious inverter that won't bankrupt me! Lol. .. I have my tailgate 400 version from Peak.... the thing is pretty well built it is never giving me a problem on the lower end things... I have a harbor Freight 750 watt that seems to work alright... but unfortunately I'm starting to wonder how much it actually puts out because when we went on our trip to Tierra del Sol, Richards lady tried to use her hair straightener or curling iron or something like that.... It didn't seem to want to power it... and yet at another time powered my laptop and 12 volt coffee mug and phone at the same time just fine... so I'm either not realizing how much power a curling iron takes or this thing is a piece of crap? hahaha. I think I used it to power a real full size coffee maker 1 time as well... I wouldn't think that would take more power than a curling iron, but then I guess my curling iron classes we're the ones I skipped in college! lol. I will definitely look it up because while it seems like a stupid thing to figure out, I have to wonder how much power it requires so that I know if its just above the threshold.
Sorry I'm rambling on here... just let me know if you have any angles on good research that's been done on the newer compressors? also on the inverters? I don't want you to spend a lot of time throwing up information for me because I know you have plenty to do... just curious if you have something off the top of your head as far as some reading I can do that is actually trustworthy and not totally confusing with contrary professional opinions? lol... thanks again for your build man! I'm not kidding you when I say it is often been an inspiration. Ian has done some awesome stuff as well that I really love trying to duplicate or at least get ideas from. DZ, too many to count! Lol
you have done some amazing things to that rig and you should be proud! I've gotten so many ideas and input and solutions from you and I'm very grateful. there are a couple things that I've been wanting to do but have put off, basically because I'm still doing research on what is the best product to use,.... but your placement of those things has me chocked full of a few ideas......
I definitely need a compressor and I'm trying to think of a way, since I do not have air lockers, to do a quick mount and dismount set up off of my roll bar or something of the sort. I sleep just fine back there with my hi-lift mounted, so I was thinking that I could weld a little plate to the 45 degree angle portion of the roll bar for mounting a compressor firmly. this way it could be at least a little bit more towards the center of the rig for airing up and down. you have any thoughts on those? I can't seem to find a single thread that isn't just yet another flurry of arguments. from talking to Eric and a couple other professionals that run shops, it appears that ARB has worked out some pretty serious problems with they had with frying units. people would crank them up for a couple uses and then poof! then I heard mostly good things about the Smittybilt compressors and that they had learned from other manufactures mistakes and upgraded certain parts... and then I heard both of them were crap and that I should go for the same brand as my home compressor, the Campbell˟Hausfeld.... I haven't even looked into it but I wasn't sure they even made those smaller units for mobile capabilities.
I also want a serious inverter that won't bankrupt me! Lol. .. I have my tailgate 400 version from Peak.... the thing is pretty well built it is never giving me a problem on the lower end things... I have a harbor Freight 750 watt that seems to work alright... but unfortunately I'm starting to wonder how much it actually puts out because when we went on our trip to Tierra del Sol, Richards lady tried to use her hair straightener or curling iron or something like that.... It didn't seem to want to power it... and yet at another time powered my laptop and 12 volt coffee mug and phone at the same time just fine... so I'm either not realizing how much power a curling iron takes or this thing is a piece of crap? hahaha. I think I used it to power a real full size coffee maker 1 time as well... I wouldn't think that would take more power than a curling iron, but then I guess my curling iron classes we're the ones I skipped in college! lol. I will definitely look it up because while it seems like a stupid thing to figure out, I have to wonder how much power it requires so that I know if its just above the threshold.
Sorry I'm rambling on here... just let me know if you have any angles on good research that's been done on the newer compressors? also on the inverters? I don't want you to spend a lot of time throwing up information for me because I know you have plenty to do... just curious if you have something off the top of your head as far as some reading I can do that is actually trustworthy and not totally confusing with contrary professional opinions? lol... thanks again for your build man! I'm not kidding you when I say it is often been an inspiration. Ian has done some awesome stuff as well that I really love trying to duplicate or at least get ideas from. DZ, too many to count! Lol
I heard on here that the air compressors out of old Cadillac's work well and they are small. That and it would be cheaper than throwing down and going broke on a small dual comp ARB.
08-30-2013, 01:45 AM
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RB,
Killer thread. It took me 3 days to read all of 78 pages. I have been holding back some questions while reading to see how you did things. By the way, glad you still have your thumb!
Awesome idea on the sound deadner. I will be trying that this weekend.
The air tank that you mounted under the truck. People have been integrating air tank's into the tube bumpers, or you could fill it with water as an extra water tank. That and since it is painted black it will absorb heat
My .02 on the tires. I lived in WA for a while and got the BFG KM 2's on my 3/4 ton to go off road. Awesome tire! They don't last long on a 7600lb truck as I only got about a little over 35,000 miles on them. But they are soft and do well in mud and snow. If you aren't wanting the KM 2's , may I suggest the Grabber by General tire. I hear that the traction in sand and offroad in the rocks is stellar.
Killer thread. It took me 3 days to read all of 78 pages. I have been holding back some questions while reading to see how you did things. By the way, glad you still have your thumb!
Awesome idea on the sound deadner. I will be trying that this weekend.
The air tank that you mounted under the truck. People have been integrating air tank's into the tube bumpers, or you could fill it with water as an extra water tank. That and since it is painted black it will absorb heat
My .02 on the tires. I lived in WA for a while and got the BFG KM 2's on my 3/4 ton to go off road. Awesome tire! They don't last long on a 7600lb truck as I only got about a little over 35,000 miles on them. But they are soft and do well in mud and snow. If you aren't wanting the KM 2's , may I suggest the Grabber by General tire. I hear that the traction in sand and offroad in the rocks is stellar.
