Ocell's 88 4Runner build thread
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PS: I got my gift card bump stops with discount, same number is yours, dropped my door by the brown Santa Claus, yesterday, and I will be doing either your trick with the screwdriver, or I might be trying a smaller pipe wrench that I have. Someone might need these bump stops, or I might put them back in some day, so we'll see. I put some Loctite brand naval jelly on the nuts as they do not seem to cooperate very well, haha. Thanks again for your idea, regarding the drill holes and screwdriver, that's likely what I'll do, because the factory torsion bars don't allow for too much of travel anyway, upward. I thought about getting 2 inch ball joint spacers, but that would just increase the tension on the torsion bars requiring me to relax them yet again. I think before I go ordering a set of Old Man Emu heavy duty torsion bars, I might look on Craigslist, etcetera, in hopes of finding A use or never been used set, you know? Hope everything's going well C in the place to be! He he. By the way, that was a little bit hairy, got pretty close 2 sucking in some water, right? eek! Haha . Looks like this thing is wheeling nice! Congrats!
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#342
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I haven't thought about relaxing the torsion bars to make sure I take advantage of the new up-travel from the bump stops... I'll try that tonight. I'm heading out to Hidden Falls again tomorrow... to try tackling some much more intimidating features.
Yeah... the entrance to the airbox was wet. Thankfully I've still got stock intake, so the airbox was on the corner that didn't dip so deep, so it never got fully submerged.
Here's another real quick video of a spot that was pretty tricky, got the trucks twisted up real good. We all have open diffs so there was a lot of wheel spinning. I got the right line, though, and walked right up it.
Yeah... the entrance to the airbox was wet. Thankfully I've still got stock intake, so the airbox was on the corner that didn't dip so deep, so it never got fully submerged.
Here's another real quick video of a spot that was pretty tricky, got the trucks twisted up real good. We all have open diffs so there was a lot of wheel spinning. I got the right line, though, and walked right up it.
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When I bought the truck there was a loud vibration at full-lock. The previous owner told me it was tire rubbing the wheel well. I later found out it was actually because the cap had come off the steer stop (as so many of us are familiar with) when I noticed this:
I put some grease on it, and kept wheeling it pretty hard... unwise, because it turned in to this:
You can imagine what that did to the threads in the hole. I got a replacement bolt from a pick-n-pull. The dealer had no clue what part that would be if I wanted to order it. I ordered a M12 1.25 pitch tap set from Amazon and carefully tried to clean out the threads. I ended up cutting new threads, but it still works! I know it's a small detail, but I wanted it fixed right.
I put some grease on it, and kept wheeling it pretty hard... unwise, because it turned in to this:
You can imagine what that did to the threads in the hole. I got a replacement bolt from a pick-n-pull. The dealer had no clue what part that would be if I wanted to order it. I ordered a M12 1.25 pitch tap set from Amazon and carefully tried to clean out the threads. I ended up cutting new threads, but it still works! I know it's a small detail, but I wanted it fixed right.
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For sure!!
I had a great trip out to Hidden Falls yesterday. I'm embedding the Yota related photos below. You can see the full set here:
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I think the low profile bump stops paid off. At one point I followed everyone up the start of a level 5 trail. Up at the top the guy in the red Cherokee said, "How did you get up here??" I'm pretty proud of the Runner.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8396216747/http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8396216747/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/ocell/, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8397301640/http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8397301640/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/ocell/, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8397302228/http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8397302228/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/ocell/, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8400230534/http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8400230534/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/ocell/, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8400229304/http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8400229304/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/ocell/, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8400228156/http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8400228156/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/ocell/, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8399139707/http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8399139707/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/ocell/, on Flickr
I had a great trip out to Hidden Falls yesterday. I'm embedding the Yota related photos below. You can see the full set here:
I think the low profile bump stops paid off. At one point I followed everyone up the start of a level 5 trail. Up at the top the guy in the red Cherokee said, "How did you get up here??" I'm pretty proud of the Runner.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8396216747/http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8396216747/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/ocell/, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8397301640/http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8397301640/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/ocell/, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8397302228/http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8397302228/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/ocell/, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8400230534/http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8400230534/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/ocell/, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8400229304/http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8400229304/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/ocell/, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8400228156/http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8400228156/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/ocell/, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8399139707/http://www.flickr.com/photos/ocell/8399139707/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/ocell/, on Flickr
Last edited by Ocell; 01-20-2013 at 06:31 PM.
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I happened across a trail I REALLY loved. After going through it once I found out it's even called Toyota.
Here's a spot that flexed me out, but I was able to drive through it both directions with no issue.
These are just quick cellphone pics.
Here's a spot that flexed me out, but I was able to drive through it both directions with no issue.
These are just quick cellphone pics.
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Hey, look what came in from Addicted Offroad!
Quick test fit. I had to hammer the upper bumper mount brackets to get them in line. No problem.
I did two coats of Rustoleum primer, then two coats of Rustoleum gloss black.
Here it is installed this morning. I still need to weld on the reinforcement plate for the frame, so I haven't messed with painting the guts of the truck yet. I'll try and tackle that this weekend. I also need to run nicer wiring for the turn signals.
I ordered a Trail Gear rear bumper yesterday, that should be here next week. It's all coming together.
Quick test fit. I had to hammer the upper bumper mount brackets to get them in line. No problem.
I did two coats of Rustoleum primer, then two coats of Rustoleum gloss black.
Here it is installed this morning. I still need to weld on the reinforcement plate for the frame, so I haven't messed with painting the guts of the truck yet. I'll try and tackle that this weekend. I also need to run nicer wiring for the turn signals.
I ordered a Trail Gear rear bumper yesterday, that should be here next week. It's all coming together.
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Right on man! How far does the stinger stick out from the grille? That stinger looks clean. There's a Toyota in my town and he has a stinger that i'm pretty sure is level with the roof looks so ridiculous.
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Here's a look at how much it sticks forward from the Addicted Offroad website's photo:
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I've been thinking that I may want a front locker. I've heard that the IFS axle setup isn't really strong enough for lockers, but some people seem to run them without issue.
I've got a lead on a 7.5" IFS front diff with 4.88 gears and an Aussie locker installed for about $500 shipped.
Of course I've got SAS on the mind as well, but I like the road ride quality of IFS (I drive on the road 95% of the time, several days a week) and it's rewarding to follow all the solid axle guys on the trail. The cheapest route to SAS that I've found so far is $2,100 too... not even with a locker... which is a lot more than $500.
If I can sell my open 4.88 diff maybe getting the Aussie won't cost much in the end.
[update] I just looked and a new Aussie is about $300. Installation still intimidates me. When I look at Zuk's gear installs, there's all the backlash measurement, shims, pressing bearings... would I have to mess with all that while installing a lunchbox locker? [/update]
Just thinking out loud.
I've got a lead on a 7.5" IFS front diff with 4.88 gears and an Aussie locker installed for about $500 shipped.
Of course I've got SAS on the mind as well, but I like the road ride quality of IFS (I drive on the road 95% of the time, several days a week) and it's rewarding to follow all the solid axle guys on the trail. The cheapest route to SAS that I've found so far is $2,100 too... not even with a locker... which is a lot more than $500.
If I can sell my open 4.88 diff maybe getting the Aussie won't cost much in the end.
[update] I just looked and a new Aussie is about $300. Installation still intimidates me. When I look at Zuk's gear installs, there's all the backlash measurement, shims, pressing bearings... would I have to mess with all that while installing a lunchbox locker? [/update]
Just thinking out loud.
Last edited by Ocell; 01-26-2013 at 06:57 PM.
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My buddy John (he's got the red 4Runner in many of the photos I post) helped me out huge today by welding on the reinforcement plate for the new Addicted bumper.
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Wow, sounds like some serious plans! Yeah, I've been so satisfied with the rear locker, so far, I've not wanted the hassle of putting a selectable up front. I guess there are so many comments on things that people don't like about them... It's kinda steered me away. BUT, yes, I've read "I don't know what their problem is... mine works when I need 4WD... when I'm in 4x2, no problem... it's floating free.... ???"... as well.
There are occasionally deals out there, ya know? Might just wanna wait and see in the Classifieds? But hey, if you're feeling ambitious and decide to slap it in... go for it!
Glad you're loving the rig! .... I enjoy reading your thread, man.. , largely because of that passion you have for it
There are occasionally deals out there, ya know? Might just wanna wait and see in the Classifieds? But hey, if you're feeling ambitious and decide to slap it in... go for it!
Glad you're loving the rig! .... I enjoy reading your thread, man.. , largely because of that passion you have for it
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I put a selectable ARB 4.88 in the rear and an Aussie 4.88 in the front and manual hubs. The manual hubs makes the front essentially selectable, and more dependable.
Having the locker in the front accomplishes 3 things:
1) 4 wheels of traction will make you more capable on trails
2) 4 wheels locked distributes the load to all 4 wheels reducing the chance of breaking parts.
3) With an IFS you will have less front wheel contact with the earth so when one wheel is in the air you will still have traction from the other one if you have a locker. For this reason I believe that it is more important to have front lockers in the front on an IFS than on SAS.
Having the locker in the front accomplishes 3 things:
1) 4 wheels of traction will make you more capable on trails
2) 4 wheels locked distributes the load to all 4 wheels reducing the chance of breaking parts.
3) With an IFS you will have less front wheel contact with the earth so when one wheel is in the air you will still have traction from the other one if you have a locker. For this reason I believe that it is more important to have front lockers in the front on an IFS than on SAS.
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I got mine used and set up in the pumpkin, so there was no set up or break in and installation was a breeze. I got the whole front end from a friend who converted to SAS. $500.00 included the whole front end including: differential with Ausie locker 4.88, roters, HD steering damper, a-arms, and Aisin manual hubs.
Last edited by Buck87; 01-27-2013 at 07:21 AM.