ChefYota4x4's 1987 4Runner Build-Up Thread
#842
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where did you get those relay sockets? I need to get some for mine. getting tired of my high beam spade plug falling off my relay. electrical tape only held it for so long. lol.
#845
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#847
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#849
Xxxtreme,
I thought you said, "the existing wires from the lights are fine, but after you join them together, it should be 10G wire from the joining to the relay and all other wires throughout going to and from the relay, to the switch, should also be 10G wire".... If that's the case, I can't use that relay block, because all the wires coming out of the bottom of it are 14g.... Also, as you can see the fuse holder is 12G wire coming out of each side.
I get that I should use a 30A fuse so that it will blow before the 40A relay, but are you saying I need 10G wire for EVERYTHING, throughout the system?
Rob, X, Ian, thanks again for all your input.
I thought you said, "the existing wires from the lights are fine, but after you join them together, it should be 10G wire from the joining to the relay and all other wires throughout going to and from the relay, to the switch, should also be 10G wire".... If that's the case, I can't use that relay block, because all the wires coming out of the bottom of it are 14g.... Also, as you can see the fuse holder is 12G wire coming out of each side.
I get that I should use a 30A fuse so that it will blow before the 40A relay, but are you saying I need 10G wire for EVERYTHING, throughout the system?
Rob, X, Ian, thanks again for all your input.
#850
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Xxxtreme,
I thought you said, "the existing wires from the lights are fine, but after you join them together, it should be 10G wire from the joining to the relay and all other wires throughout going to and from the relay, to the switch, should also be 10G wire".... If that's the case, I can't use that relay block, because all the wires coming out of the bottom of it are 14g.... Also, as you can see the fuse holder is 12G wire coming out of each side.
I get that I should use a 30A fuse so that it will blow before the 40A relay, but are you saying I need 10G wire for EVERYTHING, throughout the system?
Rob, X, Ian, thanks again for all your input.
I thought you said, "the existing wires from the lights are fine, but after you join them together, it should be 10G wire from the joining to the relay and all other wires throughout going to and from the relay, to the switch, should also be 10G wire".... If that's the case, I can't use that relay block, because all the wires coming out of the bottom of it are 14g.... Also, as you can see the fuse holder is 12G wire coming out of each side.
I get that I should use a 30A fuse so that it will blow before the 40A relay, but are you saying I need 10G wire for EVERYTHING, throughout the system?
Rob, X, Ian, thanks again for all your input.
the dark red needs to be 10, the red and black on the lights 14, and the switch just skinny (18 or heavier)
#851
Thanks, Ian! Ok, so what about the question on the grounding of the lights themselves? I only have one wire coming out of the hole in the back of the light. I'm not sure if there were ever 2... maybe you might know? It seems like the mounting bolt, itself, is the ground.
Last edited by ChefYota4x4; 11-18-2010 at 08:59 AM.
#852
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12ga wire is good for 20amp when kept under 6.6 ft. you should be good with just 2 100W lights on that circuit. even 1 more 100W light would put you at roughly 25amp. But that 40amp fuse is too big for that 12ga wire. a 20amp fuse will work.
#853
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Thanks, Ian! Ok, so what about the question on the grounding of the lights themselves? I only have one wire coming out of the hole in the back of the light. I'm not sure if there were ever 2... maybe you might know? It seems like the mounting bolt, itself, is the ground.
#854
Hey B-Loc, Ian, thanks guys!
Yeah, ...Ian, need batteries for the camera. But, it's just like I said, ....just like all lights, it has a lil rubber boot on the back/bottom where the wire/wires come out.... and mine only has one wire coming out. And, when I hooked the ground to the mounting bolt to test it, voila, it worked without any sparking, etc. Just lit up like daylight.
So, when I run each wire from the lights(have to add some wire, they're only 6" or so, coming out of each light).... can I run it for about 3feet on the further light from the firewall, and 1.5feet from the closer light, until I hook up a 10G wire? Or, do I need to join those two wires asap and then run the 10G(I have plenty) from just behind the grill on through to the fuse, etc.?
The fuse housing wiring is 12G, and I have another, 30A glass fuse laying out in the garage somewhere.... would that be ok, X? Or do I need to drop down to 20A for the fuse?(would it be safer, I mean). I can get a 30A relay and just run 12G to it, throughout, with a 20A fuse, if you say that's the safest bet, X.
Thanks guys, I think I have everything I need..... I just don't have an indicator light, hahaha...Well, I actually have one in the garage, for an old alarm...I guess I could hook that up(it's a red LED....and I have a hole for it already in my dash pop out plastic thingymadoer above the stereo, lol).
Yeah, ...Ian, need batteries for the camera. But, it's just like I said, ....just like all lights, it has a lil rubber boot on the back/bottom where the wire/wires come out.... and mine only has one wire coming out. And, when I hooked the ground to the mounting bolt to test it, voila, it worked without any sparking, etc. Just lit up like daylight.
So, when I run each wire from the lights(have to add some wire, they're only 6" or so, coming out of each light).... can I run it for about 3feet on the further light from the firewall, and 1.5feet from the closer light, until I hook up a 10G wire? Or, do I need to join those two wires asap and then run the 10G(I have plenty) from just behind the grill on through to the fuse, etc.?
The fuse housing wiring is 12G, and I have another, 30A glass fuse laying out in the garage somewhere.... would that be ok, X? Or do I need to drop down to 20A for the fuse?(would it be safer, I mean). I can get a 30A relay and just run 12G to it, throughout, with a 20A fuse, if you say that's the safest bet, X.
Thanks guys, I think I have everything I need..... I just don't have an indicator light, hahaha...Well, I actually have one in the garage, for an old alarm...I guess I could hook that up(it's a red LED....and I have a hole for it already in my dash pop out plastic thingymadoer above the stereo, lol).
#855
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you can run that 14ga wire from both lights and merge it right into a spade connector at the relay itself. That's what I would do. Less connections to worry about. would probably have to use a yellow connector, not sure if the 2 14ga's will fit into a blue one, and will definitely not fit into a red one.
#856
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Hey B-Loc, Ian, thanks guys!
Yeah, ...Ian, need batteries for the camera. But, it's just like I said, ....just like all lights, it has a lil rubber boot on the back/bottom where the wire/wires come out.... and mine only has one wire coming out. And, when I hooked the ground to the mounting bolt to test it, voila, it worked without any sparking, etc. Just lit up like daylight. ...
Yeah, ...Ian, need batteries for the camera. But, it's just like I said, ....just like all lights, it has a lil rubber boot on the back/bottom where the wire/wires come out.... and mine only has one wire coming out. And, when I hooked the ground to the mounting bolt to test it, voila, it worked without any sparking, etc. Just lit up like daylight. ...
Originally Posted by ChefYota4x4
...So, when I run each wire from the lights(have to add some wire, they're only 6" or so, coming out of each light).... can I run it for about 3feet on the further light from the firewall, and 1.5feet from the closer light, until I hook up a 10G wire? Or, do I need to join those two wires asap and then run the 10G(I have plenty) from just behind the grill on through to the fuse, etc.?...
Originally Posted by ChefYota4x4
...The fuse housing wiring is 12G, and I have another, 30A glass fuse laying out in the garage somewhere.... would that be ok, X? Or do I need to drop down to 20A for the fuse?(would it be safer, I mean). I can get a 30A relay and just run 12G to it, throughout, with a 20A fuse, if you say that's the safest bet, X...
Originally Posted by ChefYota4x4
...Thanks guys, I think I have everything I need..... I just don't have an indicator light, hahaha...Well, I actually have one in the garage, for an old alarm...I guess I could hook that up(it's a red LED....and I have a hole for it already in my dash pop out plastic thingymadoer above the stereo, lol).
Last edited by irab88; 11-18-2010 at 10:26 AM.
#857
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you can run that 14ga wire from both lights and merge it right into a spade connector at the relay itself. That's what I would do. Less connections to worry about. would probably have to use a yellow connector, not sure if the 2 14ga's will fit into a blue one, and will definitely not fit into a red one.
#858
X, I thought you said "join the lights wires and run 10G or at least 12G from there to the relay"... and Ian said, "Run 10G or at least 12G from the joining of the lights to relay, and from the fuse to relay".... WTHeck? hahaha.
I'll just join the wires with solder to a 10G wire and run that right to the relay, 10G-female, heat shrink connector into the relay..... Then, 10G wire for the fuse connection as well, and 30A fuse instead of 40A. I have the fuse in my hand and I'm gonna use the 12G wired fuse holder and solder that to the 10G or 12G wire as well. I'll use the 12G for the switch as well, that way I'm not pushing it anywhere with the 14G. And, I'll not be using the relay block w/wiring already attached. I'm just gonna use waterproof female connectors big enough for 12G and 10G wiring where needed. I will solder everything, instead of connectors, except for where they plug into the relay and switch...
Sound good?
I'll just join the wires with solder to a 10G wire and run that right to the relay, 10G-female, heat shrink connector into the relay..... Then, 10G wire for the fuse connection as well, and 30A fuse instead of 40A. I have the fuse in my hand and I'm gonna use the 12G wired fuse holder and solder that to the 10G or 12G wire as well. I'll use the 12G for the switch as well, that way I'm not pushing it anywhere with the 14G. And, I'll not be using the relay block w/wiring already attached. I'm just gonna use waterproof female connectors big enough for 12G and 10G wiring where needed. I will solder everything, instead of connectors, except for where they plug into the relay and switch...
Sound good?
#860
PS> I ordered my taillight replacement covers... mine are both cracked and pink when lit, hahaha.
I also ordered the 8" KC Covers, Black with white writing..... It's the smooth writing so I can paint the white letters Red to match the truck! lol.
I also ordered my OEM lower Ball Joints from Toyotapartsbarn or zone or something, lol... and I should also be hearing from my buddy on the IFS work date, very soon. He's wrapping up by the end of November(my Birfday is the 28th! , so that'll be a cool present to myself! hahaha). We're gonna put it on the rack and GO TO TOWN! He's really good with this stuff so I know we can do it QUICK, granting I soak everything well first. I'll have the option of using my buddy's A-arms(he's going long travel, custom made)... so when he takes them out, I can just paint them and have the old bushings pressed out and put in new ones from Japan for 100$ total for all 4 bushings...(wouldn't that be advisable, considering my bushings have 23 Years on em already?) Then, we'll shave em down for the BJ spacers, install the new Mega Travel BJ's on top and the new OEM Lower Ball Joints, newly Rebuilt Fox 2.0 Shocks and I might be doing that heim end's thingamadoohickyjobber like YotaRob, too! CAN'T WAIT to put this Suspension thing to rest, get her aligned and just WHEEL THE FREAKY DEAKY THING! LOL
I also ordered the 8" KC Covers, Black with white writing..... It's the smooth writing so I can paint the white letters Red to match the truck! lol.
I also ordered my OEM lower Ball Joints from Toyotapartsbarn or zone or something, lol... and I should also be hearing from my buddy on the IFS work date, very soon. He's wrapping up by the end of November(my Birfday is the 28th! , so that'll be a cool present to myself! hahaha). We're gonna put it on the rack and GO TO TOWN! He's really good with this stuff so I know we can do it QUICK, granting I soak everything well first. I'll have the option of using my buddy's A-arms(he's going long travel, custom made)... so when he takes them out, I can just paint them and have the old bushings pressed out and put in new ones from Japan for 100$ total for all 4 bushings...(wouldn't that be advisable, considering my bushings have 23 Years on em already?) Then, we'll shave em down for the BJ spacers, install the new Mega Travel BJ's on top and the new OEM Lower Ball Joints, newly Rebuilt Fox 2.0 Shocks and I might be doing that heim end's thingamadoohickyjobber like YotaRob, too! CAN'T WAIT to put this Suspension thing to rest, get her aligned and just WHEEL THE FREAKY DEAKY THING! LOL