8T8 4RUNNER's 1988 4Runner Build-Up Thread
08-06-2010, 09:31 AM
#263
Yeah, I hear ya on the armrest, ....they're too LOW! lol. I might have found a buddies cooler style with 4 outlets available. I'll write it up if I do. It's MUCH taller, not too wide and can hold a 9 pack, lol. Not a bad idea for longer trips, ya know? (No, not for Beerskies, ...I don't drink, ...but I'd gladly keep a couple cold for ya, Jerry! 
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Best wishes on forward progress on the 88!
) Best wishes on forward progress on the 88!
08-06-2010, 12:08 PM
#264
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incoming good price man not gonna find one cheaper than this. even to rent one. get outta that pool and jump on this:
http://scranton.craigslist.org/tls/1882827668.html
http://scranton.craigslist.org/tls/1882827668.html
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08-07-2010, 03:15 AM
#265
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excellent...go get it....hehehehe
OK...doing some reading.
for reference
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...-slowly-51371/
OK...doing some reading.
for reference
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...-slowly-51371/
08-07-2010, 04:19 AM
#267
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noooo.
that is an awesome price.
just want a stand right now. figure a lift is something i can borrow or rent. still a long ways away from being at that part yet.
searching 3vze engine removal is frustrating. maybe i will search how to replace the clutch since i assume that is the same amount of steps to getting the transmission separated.
also have been looking for alternate exhaust set-up. Doug Thorley / LCE came up and i have been looking at them.
if i'm not mistaken, one of the problems with this engine is the exhaust crossover pipe behind it and the fact that it can cook some valves. i think the header would eliminate the crossover (as per LCE's site).
trying to not spend too much imaginary money (since the real stuff is in short supply) but trying to see what i can / should do so that this is a 1-time deal.
that is an awesome price.
just want a stand right now. figure a lift is something i can borrow or rent. still a long ways away from being at that part yet.
searching 3vze engine removal is frustrating. maybe i will search how to replace the clutch since i assume that is the same amount of steps to getting the transmission separated.
also have been looking for alternate exhaust set-up. Doug Thorley / LCE came up and i have been looking at them.
if i'm not mistaken, one of the problems with this engine is the exhaust crossover pipe behind it and the fact that it can cook some valves. i think the header would eliminate the crossover (as per LCE's site).
trying to not spend too much imaginary money (since the real stuff is in short supply) but trying to see what i can / should do so that this is a 1-time deal.
08-07-2010, 04:26 AM
#268
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your gonna need that engine lift for at least 2 days (1 day to pull and one day to install) that's $50 a day at least using the price of this, when I was searching around to rent one myself I couldn't find one to rent. As for the engine stand yur gonna need that for a few days maybe even a week or two or three.
and remember these engine lifts you can sell quick. I only had mine back on CL for 3 days if that. A guy traveled down from Binghamton to pick them up.
and remember these engine lifts you can sell quick. I only had mine back on CL for 3 days if that. A guy traveled down from Binghamton to pick them up.
08-07-2010, 09:02 AM
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08-07-2010, 10:02 AM
#271
Harbor freight has one that runs on sliders, to bring it to the edge of the garage, whatever. They might have an explanation of how EXACTLY it operates... then maybe a "jerry-rig" with a lil Joe assistance could be in the future? hehehe.
I know they make these VERY HEAVY casters with sliding rails that you can buy at Home Depot.... Not sure of the weight capacity, but I think they are meant for like entire Garage Doors, etc. Might work, Jerry. Heck, I bet you could bolt 2x12's w/support over the beams and just run some HD wheel system to slide it back and forth.... I BELIEVE IN YOU! HAHAHHA.
I know they make these VERY HEAVY casters with sliding rails that you can buy at Home Depot.... Not sure of the weight capacity, but I think they are meant for like entire Garage Doors, etc. Might work, Jerry. Heck, I bet you could bolt 2x12's w/support over the beams and just run some HD wheel system to slide it back and forth.... I BELIEVE IN YOU! HAHAHHA.
08-07-2010, 04:01 PM
#273
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chef those ones that run on sliders usually run on a horizontal I beam. We have 2 ton manual ones in work to take apart manufacturing pumps and also a 5 ton electrical one for changing forklift batteries.
08-07-2010, 10:11 PM
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likewise, we now have a HOBBY......seriously, something i NEVER had.
08-12-2010, 03:31 AM
#276
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Thanks Terry.
sooooo...PITA thing here.
frequently, I read my FSM (full fledged FSM for my 92) for all my info and also read my Hayne's and Chilton's books that i have. I figure that if i look at them enough times , the combined info may gel in my brain and make life easier as I am intimidated by the prospect of pulling the engine.
was sitting there reading the FSM yesterday and thought to myself that there may be differences between the 88 4runner and the 3vze that is shown in my 92 FSM....so i posted up that question in another thread and DC said that sensors and wiring are slightly different and (paraphrasing) the motors are fundamentally the same.
I did download the year-specific FSM (1988 4runner) a while back just after we got the 4runner and had used it several times for body stuff etc...but, the 3vze that this truck has is NOT covered in the FSM that i downloaded. is that stupid or what. i even went out and checked the production date of the vehicle to be sure i am not calling it wrong. born on July 88....insurance company (via VIN) and the state DMV call it an 88 so why is the motor not covered in the year-specific FSM??
so, big long-winded post here, but really, all I'm looking to do anyway is release the transmission from the engine and the exhaust and get ready to pull it. of course, i will disconnect the electrical from the engine, since it looks like that's the simpler route rather than pulling it from the ECU and doing it that way.
still looking for an engine stand and a hoist.....have been haunting CL and our local classified ads for both....have found a few "local" ones but the savings would likely be off-set by the amount of gas to buy them. so, likely will buy a stand and figure out the hoist thing.
still a long ways off from pulling the engine though.money is REALLY tight right now, so the luxury of doing this rebuild has fallen way down on the priority list. sorry joe.
just thought i'd update so you guys don't think i died.
sooooo...PITA thing here.
frequently, I read my FSM (full fledged FSM for my 92) for all my info and also read my Hayne's and Chilton's books that i have. I figure that if i look at them enough times , the combined info may gel in my brain and make life easier as I am intimidated by the prospect of pulling the engine.
was sitting there reading the FSM yesterday and thought to myself that there may be differences between the 88 4runner and the 3vze that is shown in my 92 FSM....so i posted up that question in another thread and DC said that sensors and wiring are slightly different and (paraphrasing) the motors are fundamentally the same.
I did download the year-specific FSM (1988 4runner) a while back just after we got the 4runner and had used it several times for body stuff etc...but, the 3vze that this truck has is NOT covered in the FSM that i downloaded. is that stupid or what. i even went out and checked the production date of the vehicle to be sure i am not calling it wrong. born on July 88....insurance company (via VIN) and the state DMV call it an 88 so why is the motor not covered in the year-specific FSM??
so, big long-winded post here, but really, all I'm looking to do anyway is release the transmission from the engine and the exhaust and get ready to pull it. of course, i will disconnect the electrical from the engine, since it looks like that's the simpler route rather than pulling it from the ECU and doing it that way.
still looking for an engine stand and a hoist.....have been haunting CL and our local classified ads for both....have found a few "local" ones but the savings would likely be off-set by the amount of gas to buy them. so, likely will buy a stand and figure out the hoist thing.
still a long ways off from pulling the engine though.money is REALLY tight right now, so the luxury of doing this rebuild has fallen way down on the priority list. sorry joe.
just thought i'd update so you guys don't think i died.
08-14-2010, 11:36 AM
#277
Thanks Terry.
sooooo...PITA thing here.
frequently, I read my FSM (full fledged FSM for my 92) for all my info and also read my Hayne's and Chilton's books that i have. I figure that if i look at them enough times , the combined info may gel in my brain and make life easier as I am intimidated by the prospect of pulling the engine.
was sitting there reading the FSM yesterday and thought to myself that there may be differences between the 88 4runner and the 3vze that is shown in my 92 FSM....so i posted up that question in another thread and DC said that sensors and wiring are slightly different and (paraphrasing) the motors are fundamentally the same.
I did download the year-specific FSM (1988 4runner) a while back just after we got the 4runner and had used it several times for body stuff etc...but, the 3vze that this truck has is NOT covered in the FSM that i downloaded. is that stupid or what. i even went out and checked the production date of the vehicle to be sure i am not calling it wrong. born on July 88....insurance company (via VIN) and the state DMV call it an 88 so why is the motor not covered in the year-specific FSM??
so, big long-winded post here, but really, all I'm looking to do anyway is release the transmission from the engine and the exhaust and get ready to pull it. of course, i will disconnect the electrical from the engine, since it looks like that's the simpler route rather than pulling it from the ECU and doing it that way.
still looking for an engine stand and a hoist.....have been haunting CL and our local classified ads for both....have found a few "local" ones but the savings would likely be off-set by the amount of gas to buy them. so, likely will buy a stand and figure out the hoist thing.
still a long ways off from pulling the engine though.money is REALLY tight right now, so the luxury of doing this rebuild has fallen way down on the priority list. sorry joe.
just thought i'd update so you guys don't think i died.
sooooo...PITA thing here.
frequently, I read my FSM (full fledged FSM for my 92) for all my info and also read my Hayne's and Chilton's books that i have. I figure that if i look at them enough times , the combined info may gel in my brain and make life easier as I am intimidated by the prospect of pulling the engine.
was sitting there reading the FSM yesterday and thought to myself that there may be differences between the 88 4runner and the 3vze that is shown in my 92 FSM....so i posted up that question in another thread and DC said that sensors and wiring are slightly different and (paraphrasing) the motors are fundamentally the same.
I did download the year-specific FSM (1988 4runner) a while back just after we got the 4runner and had used it several times for body stuff etc...but, the 3vze that this truck has is NOT covered in the FSM that i downloaded. is that stupid or what. i even went out and checked the production date of the vehicle to be sure i am not calling it wrong. born on July 88....insurance company (via VIN) and the state DMV call it an 88 so why is the motor not covered in the year-specific FSM??
so, big long-winded post here, but really, all I'm looking to do anyway is release the transmission from the engine and the exhaust and get ready to pull it. of course, i will disconnect the electrical from the engine, since it looks like that's the simpler route rather than pulling it from the ECU and doing it that way.
still looking for an engine stand and a hoist.....have been haunting CL and our local classified ads for both....have found a few "local" ones but the savings would likely be off-set by the amount of gas to buy them. so, likely will buy a stand and figure out the hoist thing.
still a long ways off from pulling the engine though.money is REALLY tight right now, so the luxury of doing this rebuild has fallen way down on the priority list. sorry joe.
just thought i'd update so you guys don't think i died.
Dang, I don't envy you having to figure out a new motor now...but seeing as I have my eyes open for a reasonable 3.4 Taco or 2nd or 3rd gen 4Runner, .... I'd better at least be reading up a LIL BIT, eh? lol.
You're a fun guy to watch work and chat with, and you've done fine thus far, even on things you've though, "OH HECK NO!" before on, eh? hahaha. You'll do great, Jerry, ...Plus, you got a very wise young man as a second set of eyes that can help out, I'm sure, right?
