I have read all day about this swap and still unclear of every detail. And I want to start the build by the end of the month and very excited about it. So I would like to get as much information as possible. Like I understand that I can take a bell housing from a non-turbo 1jz and bolt to my w-56. And then the 2jz will bolt in. But big question, will I have to cut into the fire wall to fit it? And I don't want to cut into the front of the truck. I want it to look like it was built like that. And my motor has 725hp at the crank. In a single cab 4x4 yota. Needless to say I'm excited and ready for the build. Any info would be awesome thanks

 

I'm doing a 7mgte swap, the 7mgte is roughly the same size as a 2jz so i can give you some overall insights.

You can fit the 2jz without cutting the firewall. On the 7mgte i welded the engine mounts as far back as possible so i can keep the stock radiator. Just have about an inch of clearance. on the back end, I had to bash in the brake booster for room, that is because of the 7mgte intake, not sure if that needs to happen on a 2jz swap. If you use the stock mounts, you will have to move the radiator forward a good 4-6 inches and make modifications to the grill to make things fit, including a body lift so the hood clears, or cut the hood.

You will also have to have your drive lines modified and build a new transmission mount (unless you use stock mounts).

the bell housing off a 7mge (and 1jzge and probably 2jzge) engine will mate a 2jzgte to the W series transmission. There are drawbacks, you will be using an inferior clutch to handle the power. also, the w series transmissions are weaker than the R series. The W series are used for low HP, low torque, engines. If you are putting down over 300 hp (even mid 200hp) you will blow that W series transmission pretty quickly.

Because of this, I decided to do a swap with a V6 truck (3vze) and go through the effort of splitting the R150 case, putting the R154 gears in it, and putting that in the truck. It will handle up to maybe 1000 hp but i only plan to be in the 250-300 hp range. I also retain the better gear ratio's for the engine and wont be using the truck gearing which would mean lots of shifting and poor road performance.

So, I guess it comes down to what kind of build you are going for. If you want a clean, stock looking build that will be as reliable as possible...you should start with a V6 truck. This option will take significantly longer, but...
If you want a toy, that will be less reliable than a range rover, but fun when it's working, just throw that thing on the stock 22re mounts, bolt up to the w56, cut whatever doesn't fit (hood/grill), and make it up as you go. It will work, it will haul ass but it wont be reliable. or pretty.

Either way, you got my support cause it is a really great swap to undertake!

 

Is there any way to make the w-56 transmission strong??? Maybe all new internals? Idk why, but I want to keep it. And I'll probably cut into the firewall. I guess what I am going for, is that when I pop the hood I want it to look like it can from Japan like that. lol! I am super excited about it. And can't wait to start thanks for the information and will take many pics and videos as I do the build. And I will except any info and insite to the build. I have many question and unsure things I will be doing when I start.

 

You do not need to cut into the firewall at all. If you use the stock engine mount plate that is welded to the frame, you will need to cut the radiator cross member and front grill to fit the radiator.

It sounds like you already have your 22re truck. I understand, it makes sense to do the swap with the truck you already have. Since you want it to look like it came from Japan, which i imagine means you want it to run and last like it came from Japan, you're really gonna want to consider getting a V6 truck.

Now, that being said, if you are going to do the 22re swap, if i were you, i would accept what you have and go cheap/fast/ugly. Dont go for the super clean, factory looking swap. Just get the damn engine in there and get driving. Cut the front grill to fit, get a body lift so the hood can shut, get hood pins, and do whatever you need to do to get it to work. It will still be a difficult swap, but you will get it driving much faster.

As far as beefing up the W56 transmission. I am no transmission expert by any stretch of the imagination, but after pulling the R150 and R154 transmissions apart and seeing how transmissions actually work. There is no substitute for engineered performance. The simple fact of the matter is, the W series transmission was made for a purpose, low performance applications. The R series was made to handle everything the W series couldn't. Your going to blow your W series transmission. And if you plan on driving your truck a lot, plan on continuing to blow and replace that transmission often. That's the reality of doing the 22re swap. It's quick and easy and cheap, but it's not going to last. Good thing is those transmissions are not very expensive and after doing it a few times, i am sure you can swap one out in a couple hours or so.

If you truly, really want a truck that looks, feels, and drives like it came from Japan that way. You need to do it with a V6 truck.

There are other considerations. You need more than just the engine. You need the wiring harness, new fuel lines, electrical, all the engine management electronics, probably need the 2jz throttle cable, totally new exhaust, and a whole bunch of other things that will crop up.

I was advised to buy a whole donor car to do my swap, i bought a wrecked 1986 turbo supra. Best advice i got bar none. So many parts can interchange and really reduce the cost of my build by magnitudes. But thats for a 7mgte, for a 2jzgte, i am not sure that is logical.

To make this post just a little longer, I do eventually want to do a 2jzgte engine in my truck, but so many of the modifications are the same between the 2jzgte and the 7mgte that it made sense to do the 7mgte first. Then at a later date drop in a 2jzgte.

 

Yes I already have a 1994 toyota 4x4 pick up. I'm not in a big rush to finish it.... I haven't even started yet, lol! I guess I'm gonna check in to the v6 transmission and transfer case. I hate to here that but thank you for the info. Very helpful

 

MAybe the V6 transmission will bolt into the 22re chasis? No idea.

When i started my build i gave myself 1 year to complete. You can read about my build (link in signature) and my goal is to be done by August of this year.

 

Thought of a few more questions.
Do you have the 2jzgte already? Does it have full wiring harness? ECU? other engine managment parts? What did the engine come out of? Is is twin turbo? single? VVTI? Year?
Intercooler? Intercooler piping?
What kind of oil pan does it have? Rear, mid or front sump?
Is your truck Independent front suspension or solid axle swap (big deal for your oil pan)?
What is your budget for this project? (will you be able to contract out some things? I had to get help for my transmission and oil pan so far).
where do you live? Makes a difference on parts availability (lots of easy access parts here in the NW cause we have almost zero rust issues as compared to midwest and NE.)
What kind of experience do you have with engine swaps and fabrication work? (personally i have little experience and have been learning as i go).

I really want to see you do this build and want to be able to give you the best advice i can. I am a huge fan of the Toyota inline 6 turbo charged engines.

 

Yes, yes and yes. Lol! I already have the motor and stand alone ecu. I don't have the intercooler. And my truck is IFS. And I have some experience working on motors v8 mostly and I am a pipe fabrication Forman. So I can fab. Just not use too thin medals. It is a new journey for me. And I guess it will take me about one year to finish once I start. And guess that it will be about $10,000 build. After all said and done. Motor tranny and paint and body work and new seats and other things. lol I don't have kids. It's why I can afford the build

 

Cool, you will find that working on inline 6's are a lot simpler, they also run smoother, they will make you wonder why you bothered with V8's in the first place. lol.

I look forward to following you build. I am curious what the engine mount bolt pattern looks like on the 2jz and where it is located on the block...For when i get to the point of swapping in a 2jz into my truck.