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Old 12-28-2004 | 06:36 PM
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Tires...Nitto Terra Grapplers or Yoko ATII

Ok, tire search is on, considering either the Nitto or Yoko's want a good all terrain tire this time around. I know steve has the yoko's and thinks there great and everyone loves the revo's which are a very similar tread pattern...so...who has the nitto's, doesn't SteveO? Does anyone else? Does anyone like them? They are very close in price just looking at the options that are out there. The only thing i notices is the 315/75/16 nitto is a load range D tire where the yoko's are a load range C.

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Also, what is the best price y'all are seeing on these? Discount tire direct has them both for around $160 a piece with free shipping, if you buy them from a discount tire location they charge like $210 per tire but include mounting, balancing, and lifetime rotation. I will most likely buy them on-line with the free shipping to avoid sales tax as well, plus that will let me purchase 5 and get them mounted and balanced for basically the same price as buying 4 at the store.

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Old 12-28-2004 | 06:53 PM
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I would consider the Toyo Open Country AT. I have a set in LT265/75R 16 Load Range C, and they are the best tire I've had on a truck to date.

Plus there is a $125.00 dollar rebate right now on a set of 4 tires over 33".

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Old 12-28-2004 | 07:12 PM
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I would consider the Toyo Open Country AT. I have a set in LT265/75R 16 Load Range C, and they are the best tire I've had on a truck to date.

Plus there is a $125.00 dollar rebate right now on a set of 4 tires over 33".

Toyo tires
you only get $15 back per tire. Even at that i can still buy the yoko's or the nitto's cheaper or for the same price. They have a pattern that is almost a cross between the yoko's and the nitto's.
Old 12-29-2004 | 10:42 AM
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What happened to using H2 take-offs?
Old 12-29-2004 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by justinh
you only get $15 back per tire. Even at that i can still buy the yoko's or the nitto's cheaper or for the same price. They have a pattern that is almost a cross between the yoko's and the nitto's.
You're right about the rebate, I didn't check the details.

It's still a great tire.
Old 12-29-2004 | 06:30 PM
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What happened to using H2 take-offs?
The prices are going up on them and the supplier i had 3 months ago has disappeared. I just can't see paying over $100 a tire for a used tire plus shipping. It just kills the deal, no warranty, nothing. I can buy Yoko's for around $150 a tire with free shipping, it just seems like a better deal to me, plus the wheels are $15 less per piece. If i could still get H2 Takeoffs for $250 a set like I good a few months ago there would be no question about it, i would rather get 17's.
Old 12-29-2004 | 07:40 PM
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I have the Nitto's 265/75/16 'D' load range on my Tacoma. After 12k miles.... they are awesome. Low road noise for an AT tire, still look brand new. Work great in mud, snow, dirt when aired down properly. I got mine thru Discount tire too. I was going to order them direct, about $20/tire cheaper... but then its $16 per wheel to have them mounted. The store I went to decided to let me have them for exactly $16 more per tire, so the cost was the same and I didn't have to deal with receiving the tires myself. Talk to them, Discount is very pro-active about matching and beating prices if you ask.
Old 12-29-2004 | 07:46 PM
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they beat their own price?
Old 12-29-2004 | 08:01 PM
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I can only speak for the stores here in Las Vegas...
They will match the price for what you would pay to buy them online and have them mounted.
If you can find a place cheaper, they will probably match it, but Discount was the cheapest when I was looking for them to begin with. I didn't find another tire chain (Big O, Goodyear, etc) that even carried them...
Old 12-29-2004 | 08:17 PM
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yeah, that is the problem i am running into, if i can get them to match the internet price then i would definitely buy there instead.
Old 12-29-2004 | 08:18 PM
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I had mine for little over a year now and they still look new and ride the same as the day I got them, very happy with them. I got them for around 100-125 per tire I dont recall now since it was so long ago and got them from a local company. I say shop around some of the tire shops localy see if they can get them and work out a deal for you too.
Old 12-29-2004 | 08:57 PM
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so eveyone that has the nittos loves them....anyone other than schaeffer with the yoko's?
Old 12-29-2004 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 02SE
I would consider the Toyo Open Country AT. I have a set in LT265/75R 16 Load Range C, and they are the best tire I've had on a truck to date.

Plus there is a $125.00 dollar rebate right now on a set of 4 tires over 33".

Toyo tires
I just had a set of these put on a truck last Saturday and so far they seem to do very well.

They've been tested on both ice and standing freeway water @70 mph and passed with flying colors. I don't know about in snow but they are supposed to be a great all-around tire.

As far as the ice test - in my mud tires I went down the hill sliding and the truck with the Toyos didn't even lose traction. Grrrr
Old 12-29-2004 | 10:36 PM
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i think i am going to try getting the nittos and to get my local discount tire to price match the internet price plus give me the $100 off that you get for buying a wheel/tire combo. i am not sure if the internet store does the $100 off wheel/tire combo. however if i end up getting wheels and tires from the web-site they will deliver them mounted and balanced. i need to decide if i want to get the spare mounted on a matching wheel or just use one of my factory wheels. decisions, decisions.
Old 12-29-2004 | 10:40 PM
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I think it really depends on how much on-street driving you do. If you spend most of your time, say...80% or so, on the street, I would go with the Yoko tires. They have a load range of C, which are easier to balance, and will give you a smoother ride. However, if you spend more time off road, and (in my opinon) want a stronger tire, go with the Nitto tires. They are a load range of D, stiffer side wall, and a tab bit tougher to balance, pluse a slightly harsher ride on the road.

I have the Nitto tires, due to my rig not being a daily driver. Remember, your rig came with Passenger rated tires from the factory (At least my '99 Limited did). Going to D range tires means a stiffer ride. That said, I can tell you that the Nitto tires are tough tires that are quiet on the highway, and flex very nice in the rocks. I have cut several side walls on BFG tires, running 18 and 20PSI. My Nitto tires, when in the rocks, are run at 16PSI, and have done really well, no cut sidewalls. In Moab, I had some side wall rash, but they did very well. In Colorado, I bent the simulated bead lock, and picked up more side wall rash, no problem.....

Also, when I got these tires from Discount, I brought in the advertisment from Desert Rat off-road. I showed them the price of the Mickey Thompson wheels (160 each), and just let them stick me with the tire price, 180 each. Normally, they would charge 210 for the Mickey Thompson wheels, and when then price matched the wheels, I felt I was getting a pretty good deal. So, they supposedly have a price match guarentee, I would definitely try it out.


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Old 12-29-2004 | 10:45 PM
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how much weight did your tires take to balance? the 285's i am running right now have 10 ply sidewalls, i am not sure what the standard is for load range D is but i doubt they can be as stiff as the tires i am running now.
Old 12-29-2004 | 10:49 PM
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how much weight did your tires take to balance? the 285's i am running right now have 10 ply sidewalls, i am not sure what the standard is for load range D is but i doubt they can be as stiff as the tires i am running now.
I don't know, but I remember it wasn't that much. I had all 5 tires road force balanced on a GSP 9700 using the lug nut adapter as well. One of the tires they had was way out, and was sent back to the factory. I would highly recomend getting new tires road force balanced. If a problem is identified, it will be identified before your drive out of the shop, which means its their problem.
Old 12-30-2004 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 02SE
I would consider the Toyo Open Country AT. I have a set in LT265/75R 16 Load Range C, and they are the best tire I've had on a truck to date.
Toyo tires
O2SE, What rig do you have these tires on? How many miles are people getting out of those AT's? Thx
Old 12-30-2004 | 11:15 AM
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I thought about the Terra Grapplers but since mines a DD I think I'll go with a set of the Yok A/Ts come spring,I had 'em on my '97 and they were a good street tire with decent off road performance.
Old 12-30-2004 | 11:53 AM
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O2SE, What rig do you have these tires on? How many miles are people getting out of those AT's? Thx
I have them on a '97, 4x4, 4Runner, on the stock 16x7 alloy wheels, and stock suspension.

It's a little early to gauge their life expectancy, I only have 10,000 miles on them, but there is no noticeable wear.

I previously had Michelin LTX M/S tires in the same size, and load range. I replaced those at 72,000 miles because the tread was getting a little thin for dealing with snow.

I have been very pleased with the Toyo's, they balanced with far less weight than the Michelins ever took, they are a tiny (emphasis on tiny) bit louder than the LTX M/S's, they have far better grip on all surfaces I've tried, and maybe most surprising, they ride noticeably better than the michelins did.



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