but back on topic, the km2's are a good looking tire but everyone is getting them now!!!

Dynapro mt's - check em out
 

ALL MY RIGS RUNNING - DYNAPRO MT's
'88 4RUNNER 31x10.5x15
'01 RAM OFF ROAD Ed. 33x12x17
'97 SUBURBAN 31x10.5x16
GREAT TIRE FOR WINTER / MUD / SAND / ICE /

that don't bother me too much BackGate..people are getting them because they are good tires! lol

those dynapro tires look pretty aggressive the outer walls

my buddy had a set of 33x12.50 Dynapro M/T's on his ford...and they flat out SUCKED in the mud...my X-terrains were WAYYYYYY better than his Dynapros..the x-terrains cleaned out A LOT better than his tires did...

of course they were on a heavy ford single cab shortbed..and not on my 3300lb toyota LOL

camo how did the x-terrains do in the mud? out here are we have is watery mud and a lil bit of clay

that clay sounds dangerous or no?

haha its just really hard to clean. lol

can you tell us where to get the aluminum rock crawler rims please?

what about addin some lift and getting mastercraft mts? a buddy of mine has them with a 4runner and has about 45k on them and maybe 1/8in of tread on them. i have them myself and they are not loud at all to me and are very good in the mud. they clean very easily and get better as they wear. when i bought them i payed 895 for them at a local shop and that was for mounting and balancing.

x2 on those aluminum rock crawlers. i tried lookin but only found the steel ones

they are called pro comp xtreme alloy series 8069. i got mine from tirepackage.com they were 390 shipped. good deal if ya ask me. lol

I have 285 mtz's on my 02 4Runner and my little brother just got nitto trail grapplers 285's on his z71 tahoe...

We've both had them for less than 5k but great first impressions of both!

those rims look cherray

ya man, i love em. so far im the only yota that ive seen with em out my way. lol

so backgate.....wheres them pics.

BULL SHAT!!

the trxus mt's i had rode SMOOOOOOOOOOTH as glass on the road.. and did great all around.. I LOVED THEM.. they did wear pretty qucik though.


ALSO toyo MT"S will last FOREVER and are smooth as glass..

look at the post your pics thread last page man. its the green ex cab

okay..so i've decided on rims...i'm going to get the Ultra Mavericks..in a 17x8

with some 285/70/17 Federal Couragia M/T's...that's a 33x11.8 tire...and with my 4in lift it SHOULD look okay, and it's not as wide as a true 12.50..so there will be a little gas mileage gained by that...because of the reduction in rotating mass and such.

the rims center bore is 4.17"...the manual hubs are 4.125 (by my measurement) so i will be a CLOSE fit, and i will likely have the rims drilled by a machinist just a hair..to make it easier to get them on and off.

if anyone has any opinions they'd like to share..go right ahead :)

i've heard lots of good stuff about the Federal tires..they last a pretty good while (around 45K to 50K if you keep a close eye on em) and they are a great tire in the mud..noise doesn't bother me, but i've heard they are quite loud lol

What I would personally really recommend is pick up 2 sets of tires. Get a new set of AT's or all season tires for the street... so you can get something that you'll get a ton of miles out of and ride great. Then pick up a second set of used tsl's, boggers, hawgs, or something of that sort for when you wanna go out and root it. Really, even with a floor jack it only takes about 10 minutes to swap out a set of wheels.

now see, i thought about getting 2 sets of tires...but the mud terrains would be the best thing for me...with the job that i do, and the places i have to go on a daily basis..i need a good mud terrain..it's either that or make a dozer or trackhoe pull me out lol.

sometimes we get away with just parking our trucks and walking a little bit..but here lately we've been having to drive out to some pretty nasty places.

and on top of that, i drive some pretty nasty "roads" and 4wheeler trails on my own time lol

although i probably will grab a set of boggers or LTB's for when i want to get down and dirty ;)

soo...checked out the specs on the 285/70R17 Federal Couragia M/T...and the tread depth NEW is like 14.2/32nds......WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?!?

all the rest of the tires are about 19-21...but not 14.2!?!?!?!?!?!?...hell i MIGHT could get 25,000miles out of em.....

SOOO...now i'm looking for some new tires...

CRITERIA
1.gotta be good in mud
2. need to get AROUND 40K-50K miles out of em
3. need to be relatively cheap
4.15"-17" is the rim size.
5. tire needs to be around a 33x12.50..little bigger or smaller, narrower or wider is okay.


285/75 federal M/T's are like $155 a tire installed in my hometown at the expensive shop lol

33x10.50 is not an option.. ;) little too skinny, would make the 4runner look like poop LOL

ha screw 12.50's man get some 33x15.50 baja claws!!! lol

heh if you could, i'd say find some KM1s as a 33x12.50 R15... thats the first tire that came to mind in your "CRITERIA" description.

your new tires come in mak?

should come in today or tomorrow. im going to get my 2nd set of rims here pretty soon.

oh gotcha what ya getting?

i've had 2 sets of rims for months now. america's tire company just called me and told me my tires will be there around 11-1pm.... so around lunch time.

http://www.4wheelparts.com/prodDetai...No=PCW52-5883F

this is my other set... but i dont wanna high jack camo's thread :) haha so back on his topic

Realistically, there are very few tires that you actually get 50k out of... regardless of what the manufacturer's "mileage rating" is. Your average street tire you can expect about 25-30k out of them... michelins and bfg all terrains tend to last a bit longer up to the 40k range.

What you're looking for with a ton of mileage is a harder tread compound, which unfortunately just isn't present in most mud tires. They all typically use a much softer compound to have better flex for improved traction, especially if you air them down.

Since the original BFG mud terrain's are no longer around, the next best thing would be the maxxis buckshot mudder. They do great offroad, and have a hard tread compound that tends to last a very long time. I don't expect to see more than about 20-25k out of my procomps before I replace them... but then again I personally refuse to run a tire down to less than 5/32 tread depth. For various reasons. But I have seen guys running the buckshots over the 35-40k mark with no issues.

theres numerous guys out here on the pipeline that have buckshots (load range E's) on their rigs...and they all say that same thing.."they're wearin out pretty fast, but they're pretty great other than that."

and i've seen a set of KM1's with 45K miles on em..and they had about 5/32nds of tread left..i was just checkin em out..a guy close to the town i'm in now had em for sale.

i did however find a set of 35x12.50R17 KM2's that had about 75% tread left on all of them for $450 with NO patches..no rock rash..just straight road...guy said he wanted a set of street tires because his new job has him driving A LOT.

if i was ready for 35's i'd probably get them...but i'm nowhere near ready..i need some 5.29's or 5.71's first.

man i really dont think 35's will be bad with 4.56's and 5 speed!!! i know my swampers weigh way more than the km2's. i can still easily reach 70 to 75 with em and ima automatic to. the only thing is your milage wont be to great. im getting like 12 now buts thats with the swampers and auto. lol

I dunno if they're big enough for ya, or if you'd want the wheels or not. But. I have some 265/75R16 BFG Mud Terrain KM1 mounted on black Crager Soft 8's. Tires are basically brand new, less than 3000 miles. I haven't had them on the truck since Feb 2010. I'm running Revo's on my stock 5-star's right now, since I really am on pavement 98% of the time. I love the mud's, but I figure if I can get money out of them, I should just sell them. I'd want to sell the tires/wheels together though.

Let me know if you're interested. Here's a pic of them on the truck.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rwashed009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rwashed014.jpg

I have the firestone destinatin A/T on my truck.I use it on the 550 acre farm hunting,and working.In the three years with the tires on,I've never been stuck.Ice,snow,amd Mud up to the frame.Good mileage and no noise.

based on your criteria, i'd say Goodyear DuraTrac or Firestone Destination M/T would be a good choice. the GYs have the price of an AT tire, but the aggressiveness of an MT, also should last a while longer than an MT due to a tighter tread in the contact patch. Firestone usually has a buy 3 get one free deal if you get their credit card, they're a tad cheaper than other brands of MTs, they wear pretty good so i've been told by every person i've asked who's run them, they have great reviews for cleaning out mud and snow. both tires are in the wheel size you're looking at.

the firestone destinations are another one i've been considering here lately..i haven't even started to price them out yet though..my foreman has some 275/70R18s on his company truck and i know they are great in the mud, he's barreling down right of ways that are 2ft deep in nasty mud and clay lol.

Rims might have to wait and i might just get some 15" MT classics i found on the net just now, to keep the weight down.
There was a Blow Out around Pocasset (south of Oklahoma city) put 3 guys in the hospital, one guy is still in ICU i believe, so we might possibly be getting shut down for 2 weeks. if so then i won't be able to afford new tires AND rims.

if i can get the guy to sell me just the rims, then i also found a set of BRAND NEW Hankook Dynapro M/T's 33x12.50R15s for $700..and i could get them mounted for cheap.

stay tuned for my next update ;)

If you can get the 33" Kooks for $700, you better jump on them. I paid $690 for my 31s.

but they're about a 4hour drive away....lmfao

guys, idk what's goin on...lol my mind seems to change everyday :( lmao

why does this thread suddenly remind me of a certain "TOY" thread.

Wondering why you asked me about that spare of mine haha.

LOL you lost me there XXX.

i'm constantly back and forth on which tire to go with..which will serve me good..which will yield the best ride on the highway (noise doesn't bother me..but i don't want tires as loud as mud grapplers or swampers..lol) which one will gimmie the best miles..

i don't wanna spend $700-$1100 on tires and only get 25,000 out of them..if i'm going to buy tires..there gonna get 40,000 at least.