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Old 08-23-2006, 12:27 PM
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Ask Doc to go get it from the Stealership and drive it down the road a bit, then leave it. Call AAA yet again.
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I'm wayyyy ahead of you Scott, already been done /setup
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Originally Posted by nc994run
finally got them on the phone...$100 for just an inspection I'm glad i didnt get them to do the work and get raped any more then i already have
Have them e-mail you the invoice for it. There is no way they spent more than an hour (labor rate at the Toyota dealer here is $65/hr) diagnosing it without taking any parts off of the vehicle. For $100 they could have had the entire thing taken apart if the tech knew what he was doing.
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Already paid for it so at this point its useless to fight it
the breakdown was $80 for the diagnosis, $6 shop fee, and $8 tax, actually $94, but 100 is a nice round #

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Old 08-23-2006, 03:00 PM
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anybody think driving it a few hundred feet down the street will break anything that isnt already broken? Please chime in with any thoughts or ideas
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Nope, it really can't get any worse that it already is. Other than that annoying squeel that you had on trail 5, which obviously was your breaks, I don't think it can cause more damage.
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anybody think driving it a few hundred feet down the street will break anything that isnt already broken? Please chime in with any thoughts or ideas
I'll let you know when I drive it off the lot tomorrow. I need the number for tripple A and your last name. Other wise I'll drive it like I stole it !
You've see me drive !

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If thats the case then its definitely better than the $250 AAA wanted to charge me from Toy of Knoxville to Cookeville (100 miles at 2$ per mile plus 50$ hook up charge)
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I'll let you know when I drive it off the lot tomorrow. I need the number for tripple A and your last name. Other wise I'll drive it like I stole it !
You've see me drive !

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I gotcha covered there Rob. I'll try and time it so that the driver shows up just as I drive it off the lot. I'd hate to leave it sitting there with the keys
in it. I wish that I was sure that i could get it back to my office, that way I could watch out the window for the driver.

Do you think that it would make it another 1/2 mile ? Scott ?
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from the sound of it, everything that could break already has, but i hope more knowledgeable people chime in
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I went to Toyota of Knoxville to move Rob's runner off the lot. The battery was dead becuse they had left the parking lights on. The lot attendant jumped the runner off and it started right up. I went to back out of the parking spot and the front wheel and tire would only slide - no rolling involved. I called Rob and he will have to pay a wrecker to move the runner - It was parked 100 yards from the road. Sliding the tire that far would have ruined the tire and possibly broken the custom wheel.

I tried ! Rob can not stand anymore damages !
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see if you can pull it on a trailer. and then move it down the road.. hes looking at a lot of $$$
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Originally Posted by Doc279
I went to Toyota of Knoxville to move Rob's runner off the lot. The battery was dead becuse they had left the parking lights on. The lot attendant jumped the runner off and it started right up. I went to back out of the parking spot and the front wheel and tire would only slide - no rolling involved. I called Rob and he will have to pay a wrecker to move the runner - It was parked 100 yards from the road. Sliding the tire that far would have ruined the tire and possibly broken the custom wheel.

I tried ! Rob can not stand anymore damages !
Way to step up Doc.

Didnt the tire roll when he left it at the cabins? Seems there is someething going on here.
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when we got it out of the river crossing it started to lock up on his front left side.. we got it another 10 feet and parked it.. so it could be permantly locked but I think it can still roll somewhat..
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Ok. just seemed weird to me.

Rob I hope you get it fixed. Good luck bro
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Originally Posted by Doc279
I went to Toyota of Knoxville to move Rob's runner off the lot. The battery was dead becuse they had left the parking lights on. The lot attendant jumped the runner off and it started right up. I went to back out of the parking spot and the front wheel and tire would only slide - no rolling involved. I called Rob and he will have to pay a wrecker to move the runner - It was parked 100 yards from the road. Sliding the tire that far would have ruined the tire and possibly broken the custom wheel.

I tried ! Rob can not stand anymore damages !

I told you guys!! Doc ain't skeered!
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Originally Posted by seaflea
Way to step up Doc.

Didnt the tire roll when he left it at the cabins? Seems there is someething going on here.
The bearings are history Will. The spindle is the only thing holding the wheel on and I believe that it is in the bottom of the knuckle. The wheel turned about 3" and then the wheel and tire locked up and the tire would only slide.

It is definately "fugged up" - Rob will have to pay a wrecker to move the runner or grease up for the Toyota of KX "bend over"
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The bearings are history Will. The spindle is the only thing holding the wheel on and I believe that it is in the bottom of the knuckle. The wheel turned about 3" and then the wheel and tire locked up and the tire would only slide.

It is definately "fugged up" - Rob will have to pay a wrecker to move the runner or grease up for the Toyota of KX "bend over"
Well, that sucks!!!! The bearings are probablly all over the place in there and are creating more problems everytime the wheel rotates.

I have access to a tow dolly and a trailer. if only I lived closer.
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Originally Posted by nc994run
from the sound of it, everything that could break already has, but i hope more knowledgeable people chime in
You know that all 95.5 Tacoma/4Runners have Semi-Float front ends with ADD alxes. The axle shaft HAS to be in the spindle or the bearings will self destruct. All of the vehicles 95 and older have full floating fronts, 79-85 SA and the 86-95 IFS, thise vehicles can be driven with the axles removed. The 95.5 Tacoma with manual hubs and the 2WD 4Runner/Tacoma are also full floatng. Now that manual hub converison does not seem so expensive does it.

So the ONLY truck you can not move without the front axles in is the ADD 4WD. So that is why your casting, bearings and spindle are destroyed and need to be replaced.


As for the axle, since I have been there, a truck with a few bolt-ons had no business being on slick rock. Invisable mods like lockers, gears and dual cases buy you time on Slick Rock. Andy was correclty equipped with the exception of the front shocks being too long, which I told him, and he made it but paid a price. Two ARB Lockers and 4.56 gears and he paid a price.


Brett made it with one locker but 4.88 gears and landing hard on the RE links I make. If he did not have those links would he have taken a stocker out, probably. Bretts run at it was also pretty by the seat of his pants. A little spazy but he made it.


Earnie made it, but Earnie has a pretty built truck with locker or two. Also two spare front axles on that hi-lift bar I made him.


Bud schooled it. Bud has a crawler & two lockers. So do I.


Chris was not there either, as much as I tease that guy, he is an outstanding spotter and quite good at this sport.



The lesson to be earned here is to take small steps, work up to the big obsticales, have spare parts with you and know how to repair your vehicle. For the cost of 2 of the 4 lights on roof you could have had a junk yard alxe. A 35mm socket and a pry bar and you would have been back in business.


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