nc994run

apparently there were a few things he left out when he told me the parts list originally, but here's the list w/ prices:

LEFT FRONT AXLE ASSEMBLY:$277.56
LEFT FRONT SPINDLE:$520.49
LEFT FRONT HUB :$442.27
LEFT FRONT CALIPER ASSEMBLY:$204.02
LEFT FRONT ROTOR:$121.82
DISC PAD SET:$53.95

Total for parts = 1620.11, so $600 in labor

It seems like for that much i could get a manual hub kit and tundra brakes

bamachem

for sure you could...

MSRP's are shown below in (parenthases) and Toyota of Dallas prices are in [brackets]. they're gouging ya BAD on the parts prices...

I come up with $871.42 in parts for the knuckle/axle, then if you NEED the brakes, then add another $351.30 to do your OEM brakes or about the same price to do the tundra brakes on BOTH sides. $600 in labor is about 10 hours - way too much, really.

don't do anything with it just yet. DO NOT give them the go-ahead with the repairs.

check out the MSRP's and YOUR PRICE on this list from TOYOTA OF DALLAS:

justinh

The price gouging is even worse when you look at what those parts cost from Toyota of Dallas and you see that the Steering knuckle (Spindle) is only $289.12

justinh

I am sorry for misleading you earlier. I referred to the "hub" as the spindle in the picture I posted of the ORS manual hub conversion kit when they refer to the spindle as the steering knuckle. What is the reason for replacing the knuckle? Did the wheel bearing failure damage it?

bamachem

if the wheel bearing pulled out - which they say it did, then the hub rode in the housing of the knuckle, and more than likely gouged it. he'll need the knuckle, hub, bearing, two seals, and an axle to get it going.

i still can't figure out how he needs a caliper, rotor, and pads though...

nobody took pics of the damage before it was towed to the STEALer?

neliconcept

I think I took some pics but I have to go back and look.

edit: nevermind he still has the tire on in my pics

anybody else get any?

justinh

It makes sense, I was just kinda wondering what they said the damage was. It just seems convenient that they know he is in a pinch being out of state and needing it fixed and they are trying to make him pay for every single part in the front end. I would be willing to bet that a service writer went out and just looked at it and said "everything from here out needs to be replaced." I don't think they could see whether there was actually any damage to the knuckle without taking everything apart.

FWIW, when I was doing my manual hub conversion I walked into the dealership with 4 completely assembled knuckles (minus rotors and calipers) and tried to explain to the service writer what I wanted done, after 20 minutes of him looking at me like I was speaking Chinese he went and got a tech who said "Ok" and told the service writer to bill me for a set of bearings and an hour of labor. The same service writer also tried to bill a lady $100(the same night) for repacking her wheel bearings in her Sienna until the same tech told him it wasn't even possible to service the wheel bearings on that model. They are sales guys not techs, unfortunately you probably won't get a tech to go look at it either without paying him for labor to do it.

1985 4Runner

I worked at a dealership for a while, I got out of the business it was so crooked. While I understand that not every dealership is out to rape you, this example shows why so many people hate dealerships.
FWIW the service writers at my dealership were not mechanics either.

nc994run

I'm going to get on the phone with the dealership later and try to find out why they think the caliper and rotor needs to be replaced...i will post the answer i get in a little while

bamachem

another thing the stealer in knoxville isn't telling you is that you'll be adding 9.25% sales tax to his inflated prices. that's ~$150 for his $1600 parts list on top of the raping he's already giving you. if you buy online, then it's shipping, and i guarantee you that it'll be less than $150.

i found a knuckle and hub assembly for $100 at car-part.com. you really should shop this around for parts and do it yourself if there's any way possible. you can easily save two-grand off their repair estimate and over $1000 off what it should be costing you at the dealership.

oh, and i'm taking the wife's UZJ100 in for warranty work tomorrow evening. i'll make sure to tell them that i saw the prices they gave to you and that i think they're raping you horrendously.

justinh

I am not sure how your AAA works but will they move it again for you? Or do they only cover like 5 miles and then it is on your dime?

nc994run

They said that the rotors and calipers had been "struck" and damaged, needing replacement.

nc994run

it is the first 100 miles free per tow for AAA

1985 4Runner

Are your folks making you fix it at the Dealership? or can it be explained how they are raping you and you need another option. If they are paying for the repairs & you have to pay them back, they should at least let you have some say in where/how it gets fixed IMO.

I'm wishing I had trailered it all the way up to Va. for you now, but I had to get my rig off the trail too. Damn that Murphy & his Law!!! Keep the updates coming.

nc994run

They aren't making me get it done at the dealership, but they are making me get it done by a shop....so i do have some say as to who does the work, as long as its not me doing it

justinh

Have one of your buddies make an invoice on the computer after your fix it with the parts you buy. Make sure to add in a little extra beer money, they will be so glad you got it fixed for $1000 instead of $2000 they won't even realize you made off with an extra $300 to do whatever you want with.

If you had a way to buy the parts I would even meet the AAA guy halfway, tow it back to my house and put everything together for you.

nc994run

tnaks a lot for the offer, i will definitely look into that

1985 4Runner

You got a future in politics...

justinh

Nah, I am way too nice, emotional and honest to be in Politics. I sold a car for my dad to my brother in law a few weeks ago and my dad gave me a commission on it and I gave it to my brother in law. The $2,000 repair bill doesn't seem to scare his parents, if he is resourceful and gets it fixed for less than that then he should consider the rest an interest free loan, he is the one that will ultimately be paying it back! Or, he can take the $700 (or whatever it ends up costing) and be done with it. Since I know how it feels to be in debt to your parents I recommend option B, I would rather be broke and scraping by and not owe as much.

Stump1883

Haha, I said I would do the same thing, I've got all the time off, my classes are always over at 12:00. I think we can figure something out, something ALOT cheeper.

Yeah the in debt to your parents thing is the worst, I have never been and will never be. It's my life and my mistakes are mine to fix, but I know your stuck between a rock and a hard spot here, just try talking to them and figure something else out, it's just to crazy to have any mechanic do all the work on your truck.