View Poll Results: Possible Dates for Whipper Snapper Meltdown?
August 18, 19, 20th
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I don't care, just get me there, I need a rock fix
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Whipper Snapper Summer Meltdown 4Runner Jam
#481
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I am pretty sure the Toy dealer won't be doing this repair....either a less expensive place in knoxville, or its comin up to blacksburg
if there was a place in knoxville, i would just hope they wouldn't get the parts through the Toy dealer in Knoxville... I'm keeping my finger crossed for now
if there was a place in knoxville, i would just hope they wouldn't get the parts through the Toy dealer in Knoxville... I'm keeping my finger crossed for now
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Hey Scott I know this a little off topic but what makes it so hard and expensive to do SAS on our rigs as opposed to say a same year Tacoma? I am just wondering.
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Thanks a lot for the suggestions....i think i will probably go that route for the repair if there are no shops in knoxville suggested
I would love to learn as much as possible about my truck so i know what to do in the future / have what is necessary to fix it
I would love to learn as much as possible about my truck so i know what to do in the future / have what is necessary to fix it
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#484
Rob,
My opinion only...
Buy a 3rd gen FSM. Get the dealership recommended R/R sheet since you are going to pay for it anyway. Buy the necessary parts, but get them from strap22 (he'll help you get all the ones you need, I guarantee it) or the like online or aftermarket cheaper. Invest in the tools necessary and do your research. Set aside a weekend or two and fix your own junk. Get some friends to help, but YOU do the work.
Count this as a cheap monetary lesson and a momentary inconvenience. It could have been a LOT worse considering. If you are going to wheel, learning to work on your own junk will cut down the probability of you from getting in such a predicament again.
Sorry for your misfortune and good luck getting your rig fixed, but $2250 is about twice as much as it will cost you to do it yourself I bet.
My opinion only...
Buy a 3rd gen FSM. Get the dealership recommended R/R sheet since you are going to pay for it anyway. Buy the necessary parts, but get them from strap22 (he'll help you get all the ones you need, I guarantee it) or the like online or aftermarket cheaper. Invest in the tools necessary and do your research. Set aside a weekend or two and fix your own junk. Get some friends to help, but YOU do the work.
Count this as a cheap monetary lesson and a momentary inconvenience. It could have been a LOT worse considering. If you are going to wheel, learning to work on your own junk will cut down the probability of you from getting in such a predicament again.
Sorry for your misfortune and good luck getting your rig fixed, but $2250 is about twice as much as it will cost you to do it yourself I bet.
#485
i don't know of any personally (i'm the ONLY one who touches my runner w/ a wrench), but i know you could get a trailer for a hundred or so and tow it home. from there, get a junkyard knuckle/hub assembly with caliper/rotor, etc still attached, and axle online and then do the flush/install yourself. if you wanted new bearings, then you could get some pressed in locally for less than $100 total for parts and labor. it wouldn't be hard, just time consuming.
i knew they'd rape you, but that's just rediculous...
i knew they'd rape you, but that's just rediculous...
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Originally Posted by hlpressley
Hey Scott I know this a little off topic but what makes it so hard and expensive to do SAS on our rigs as opposed to say a same year Tacoma? I am just wondering.
Good plan of attack Rob, figure out the best choice, let me know and I'll do what I can to help when the time comes.
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Originally Posted by nc994run
Ryker, i hope you have a lot easier time getting yurs to run then i've had so far
...I'm looking into trailering it up to blacksburg to do it with the help of some friends
...I'm looking into trailering it up to blacksburg to do it with the help of some friends
Thanks, and good luck with yours. I am going to look at mine tomorrow. I'm hoping the head gasket is all it is and I can replace it & be good to go, I wasn't there to see what happened when Scott & Greg retrieved it for me. Bottom line is it had to come off the trail & I know they did what I would have done had I been there.
The good news is the radiator I have is a Griffin Racing radiator, the manufacturing plant is here in Piedmont SC. If I need a fix they can do it there, but since it is aluminum, I'm not sure what can be done.
I was just hoping to escape any damage so I could get moved soon, looks like this will set me back a week at least.
I still had a killer time & got my rock fix in for a while for sure...
#488
Tundra Calipers : $170
Tundra Rotors : $100
Tundra Pads : $60
Knuckle/Hub (used) : $150
Wheel Bearing (installed) : $100
CV Axle (reman w/ core) : $80
Trailer + Gas to get it home : $300
total : $960 + about 10 or so hours to install/repair everything and upgrade the front brakes in the process.
Tundra Rotors : $100
Tundra Pads : $60
Knuckle/Hub (used) : $150
Wheel Bearing (installed) : $100
CV Axle (reman w/ core) : $80
Trailer + Gas to get it home : $300
total : $960 + about 10 or so hours to install/repair everything and upgrade the front brakes in the process.
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Originally Posted by bamachem
Tundra Calipers : $170
Tundra Rotors : $100
Tundra Pads : $60
Spindle (used) : $150
Wheel Bearing (installed) : $100
CV Axle (reman w/ core) : $80
Trailer + Gas to get it home : $300
total : $960 + about 10 or so hours to install/repair everything and upgrade the front brakes in the process.
Tundra Rotors : $100
Tundra Pads : $60
Spindle (used) : $150
Wheel Bearing (installed) : $100
CV Axle (reman w/ core) : $80
Trailer + Gas to get it home : $300
total : $960 + about 10 or so hours to install/repair everything and upgrade the front brakes in the process.
Id go with this. Good luck on what ever you decide
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Unfortunately i am a college student whose parents pays for his apartment...
They said that i had to have a shop in knoxville do the repairs....i tried to argue this, but seeing as how i can't afford to pay my rent for the rest of the year (at least 1.5 x the 2250 repair bill) i am at their mercy. I just owe them the money and pay it back as i can.
Trying Slickrock was a bad idea considering that i obviously can't afford the repairs...I will be stuck in the same situation somewhere down the road due to the fact that i didn't do it myself.
rant off/
They said that i had to have a shop in knoxville do the repairs....i tried to argue this, but seeing as how i can't afford to pay my rent for the rest of the year (at least 1.5 x the 2250 repair bill) i am at their mercy. I just owe them the money and pay it back as i can.
Trying Slickrock was a bad idea considering that i obviously can't afford the repairs...I will be stuck in the same situation somewhere down the road due to the fact that i didn't do it myself.
rant off/
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Man, I wish I hadn't given away all of my parts when I did my manual hub conversion on my limited, otherwise everything you need except for the caliper would be sitting in my garage. I would recommend visiting the GA, NC, and VA chapters of TTORA and looking for an ADD spindle and axle. I will bet that you can get everything you need, other than the caliper for under $300 and probably find someone to do the work for you. There are lots of Tennessee guys who have SAS'd their tacomas and have these parts sitting around.
When I did my manual hub conversion I took my knuckles to the dealership and had them press the old wheel bearing out and new wheel bearings in, if i remember correct, the bearings were about $60 a piece and they charged me an hour labor for the set. The rest is literally the upper ball joint, the 4 lower bolts, sliding in the axle and torquing it down and plugging in the ABS sensor. If you can find an entire assembled knuckle you could have it swapped in about 30 minutes.
Now would also be an excellent time for a manual hub conversion. Heck, even if you spent the $900+ on the ORS kit plus installation you would be coming out ahead.
if you are really on a budget:
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum...ad.php?t=43813 -calipers
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum...ad.php?t=42359 -more brakes and other parts
CV Axles
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum...ad.php?t=43283
Everything you need and a lot more for less than the dealer said...
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum...ad.php?t=42802
That was just from the National Board at TTORA.
When I did my manual hub conversion I took my knuckles to the dealership and had them press the old wheel bearing out and new wheel bearings in, if i remember correct, the bearings were about $60 a piece and they charged me an hour labor for the set. The rest is literally the upper ball joint, the 4 lower bolts, sliding in the axle and torquing it down and plugging in the ABS sensor. If you can find an entire assembled knuckle you could have it swapped in about 30 minutes.
Now would also be an excellent time for a manual hub conversion. Heck, even if you spent the $900+ on the ORS kit plus installation you would be coming out ahead.
if you are really on a budget:
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum...ad.php?t=43813 -calipers
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum...ad.php?t=42359 -more brakes and other parts
CV Axles
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum...ad.php?t=43283
Everything you need and a lot more for less than the dealer said...
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum...ad.php?t=42802
That was just from the National Board at TTORA.
Last edited by justinh; 08-21-2006 at 06:27 PM.
#494
I hope you arent out of commission with your runner too long.
here is a link to the photos from Saturday and fridays will be up soon
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f100/whipper-snapper-meltdown-literally-photos-92986/
here is a link to the photos from Saturday and fridays will be up soon
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f100/whipper-snapper-meltdown-literally-photos-92986/
#497
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Originally Posted by Stump1883
The Toyota delaership that Robs rig will eventually be at is right behind Docs office, so he can keep an eye on it for him. It's good to know we have such great friends willing to watch out for us and our rigs even when we can't, thanks guys. Justin I sure wish I knew you had a trailer and tow rig, but then again I lost your number the last time I lost my phone, yes I've lost it more than once, LOL.
Andy I was planning to swap Rob's axel out with my spare, By the time I had figure out the inner tripod was not coming out I had lalready pulled the axle in two peices, then figured we'd just limp him home where I could fix things for the ride home on flat groud out of the sun, it obviously never made it.
Harold I really appreciate the kind words, it's great to know you have such a high opinion of me, means alot. I'm just glad we all made it there, had a blast, made some stories, shared a few beers,and got out with minimal damage, it can always be worse. A bad day on the trails is better than a good day in the office/classroom.
Andy I was planning to swap Rob's axel out with my spare, By the time I had figure out the inner tripod was not coming out I had lalready pulled the axle in two peices, then figured we'd just limp him home where I could fix things for the ride home on flat groud out of the sun, it obviously never made it.
Harold I really appreciate the kind words, it's great to know you have such a high opinion of me, means alot. I'm just glad we all made it there, had a blast, made some stories, shared a few beers,and got out with minimal damage, it can always be worse. A bad day on the trails is better than a good day in the office/classroom.
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Originally Posted by nc994run
would i still need a spindle with the manual hub conversion?
http://www.offroadsolutions.com/imag...rsion_0332.jpg
Last edited by justinh; 08-22-2006 at 06:53 AM.
#499
1. Hub
2. Bearing
3. Bearing Seal
4. Knuckle
looks like you need parts 1, 2, 3, & 4 + an axle and a caliper. 1, 2, (2) 3's, and 4 would be about $465 + shipping from http://www.toyotapartsales.com. add in another $140 for the axle assembly and $250 for a caliper (but i still don't understand why you need this one). in total, without the caliper, you're looking at $600 in parts from phil that list for right at $700 or so + local tax of 9.25% on parts.
i don't understand how they want to charge you $2250 for the repair unless they're charging you double MSRP for the parts and then the full 10-hours labor. can you get them to fax you or even better - EMAIL - you a quote for the repairs so we can see them here?
if i had the knuckle with the bearing installed, i could swap everything out and have you running in a matter of just a few hours. i think it should be NO MORE than $1000 for new, OEM parts including the toyota dealer doing the labor.
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